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#64 of 102 Exected resale value by mikefm58 Sep 02, 2005 (7:34 pm)
Anyone know which vehicle will hold their value better? I just got done reading this forum and can see where the tC is the winner simply based on price. The few extras of the RSX don't justify the extra money. . I'm partial to the RSX so if it would hold it's value at least as good as the tC, I'd still consider it.
#65 of 102 I expect by nippononly Sep 05, 2005 (10:08 pm)
the RSX will hold its resale BETTER than the tC, Hondas generally beat Toyota on this count, and the RSX does less sales volume than the tC, adding a bit of "rarity premium".   joeluc: type-R sales were always very limited in the Integra line, the type-R can be pretty harsh to drive, and there weren't enough serious racers ready to buy to justify importing them half the time.   Type-R's have the sound-deadening material removed to save weight, which is a BAD thing in the RSX if you ask me (although good for racing), not to mention seats like iron (good for racing) and rock-hard suspension (great for racing, REAL bad for feckless American roads). Plus, with the added gear like the LSD and other stuff, the price is usually more than the type-S - perhaps a hard sell in equipment-oriented America, where at a $26K sticker (or so) it would be without NAV, HIDs, power seats, all that junk that Americans love so much.   Again, there just aren't enough serious racers with money in hand to make it worth it for Honda. I wish they would bring it over anyway! Replies to this message: joeluc13 (Sep 05, 2005 10:57 pm)
#66 of 102 Re: I expect [nippononly] by joeluc13 Sep 05, 2005 (10:57 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 05, 2005 10:08 pm) Good point! I do believe that people here in the U.S. don't want to pay $26k for a car that wouldn't be a good daily driver (with all that sound-deadening material excluded), except for tuners though. Just paying $26K+ for a fwd car might not be practical compared in getting the same fwd car with some luxury in it (Type S). Although the Type S still has the features of a tuner car, I still feel some luxury (I guess it's due to the leather seats and better interior trimming). I just feel bad that some of the more luxury-level equipment are not available for the Type S in the U.S. (things you mentioned--NAV, HIDs, power seats), which also would have made the price for the Type S a little more practical that it is right now. Now that you mentioned about the features of the Type R that makes the ride uncomfortable for a daily driver, I definitely don't want to own one. But like you said, it would be nice to have them around U.S. roads.   Overall, I love the car. I have no regrets owning one since I really have trusted Honda ever since I bought my 97 Civic EX--which has 152K+ miles right now and still runs like it only has 70K on it. Although I have read some messages from other RSX Type S owners having problems, I still believe in my Type S's reliability. I just find it possible that not all things are built perfectly. Some products have flaws (even it is unacceptable for us consumers) and some don't. Even Mercedez Benz couldn't get rid of their electrical problem (new cars having malfunctioning break lights--I see them all the time). Somehow due to mass production of vehicles nowadays, consumers end up relying on luck just to get a flawless vehicle.
#67 of 102 While I was getting my oil changed by johnnyringo Sep 06, 2005 (5:39 am)
While I was getting my oil changed on friday up at maplewood scion/toyota I saw two Acura RSX's used for 14,000 and change each... they were both 04 models... does that tell you anything about there resale value?... I am looking right now at auto trader and tC's with 15Kmiles are selling for 18,000 or more in the twin cities... supply and demand is awsome! I am thinking of putting my tC up for sale just to turn around and buy another one but be able to put more down this time. I owe 14K on mine and if I can sell it for 18 or even 17 I would be laughing. I agree that Acuras are very nice cars but in my opinion are way over priced for what you get. I also think the tC astheticaly is more pleasing to the eye than the RSX and performance aside I think that is why the tC is so popular right now... has any one seen the new eclipse?... in the comercial it looks pretty sweet! base starting at 19,500.   I know there will be some acura fans that don't agree with me and to them I would say that the tC is selling better than the RSX for a reason... most small car buyers are not tuners. Replies to this message: kozmo (Nov 09, 2005 3:01 pm) sassy1866 (Nov 14, 2005 7:56 am) JBaumgart (Nov 14, 2005 1:15 pm) tonylexus (Nov 16, 2005 8:20 am)
#68 of 102 johnny by nippononly Sep 06, 2005 (2:05 pm)
I just can't help myself after you throw down the gauntlet that way!   The tC sells more because it costs less, an age-old formula that continues to work a lot of the time. There IS a difference between these two models. Whether or not it is worth $3 grand to each person is up to them.   Now, if you really think that EVEN ONE used tC is selling for $18K when they can be bought NEW for less, then you have precious little experience of the used car market. There may be a sucker born every minute, but there aren't enough to sell many used tCs at that price.   As for the RSXs, you do realize that an '04 can be two full years old now, right? Miled-up '04s could easily get down to $14K in resale. And they'd be a bargain at the price, too, as long as they were under 50K in miles.   joeluc: you know, you CAN still get your hands on some fairly recent model type-Rs. They sold them here up until 4, maybe 5 years ago. If you can find one that hasn't been raced or modded, you will be a miracle worker. But if so, and you are ready to pay premium dollar, I am sure it would give a current type-S a run for its money. The RSX has put on weight from the previous generation, and the 'R' had most of the power of the current 'S'. Not to mention a standard LSD for putting the power down, and old-style VTEC just to make things really fun. Replies to this message: joeluc13 (Sep 06, 2005 7:58 pm)
#69 of 102 Re: johnny [nippononly] by joeluc13 Sep 06, 2005 (7:58 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 06, 2005 2:05 pm) Nippononly: Do you have any idea where can I get a DC5R LSD for an 05 Type S? I've heard of other brands but not sure of it. And if installed, would it void the warranty? I think it does, but not sure.
#70 of 102 don't know by nippononly Sep 06, 2005 (8:53 pm)
where you can get the LSD, but I do know the warranty is only voided if they can link the failed component to the aftermarket mods, and installing a limited slip is a pretty safe bet - there isn't much it could damage, that I can think of. Maybe if you changed the final drive ratio a ton and the engine or transmission got damaged, but you wouldn't want to do that anyway! Replies to this message: joeluc13 (Sep 07, 2005 7:44 am)
#71 of 102 Re: don't know [nippononly] by joeluc13 Sep 07, 2005 (7:44 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 06, 2005 8:53 pm) Makes sense. I guess it goes down to the mechanic installing it. I have to make sure that the shop I choose has a good reputation in tuning Hondas and Acuras. You are right. I won't be doing any engine/transmission mods. The only modifications I have in mind is the LSD and dropping the suspension a little bit. I am already happy with the engine's power. Probably if I were a hardcore tuner, I would do all that.
#72 of 102 Tire Cupping by joeluc13 Sep 08, 2005 (10:54 am)
What does tire cupping mean? I've seen this phrase in a posting about a car's problem, but I don't seem to get what it actually means.
#73 of 102 Tire Cupping by JBaumgart Sep 08, 2005 (8:53 pm)
Tire cupping is when there are scoops of rubber worn out on the tire's tread, often caused by worn out shocks or struts. This results in the car bouncing over bumps and stay in the air instead of staying planted on the pavement, and when the tire comes down it will skid (especially when braking at the same time) thus causing uneven wear. And the longer you drive under these conditions, the worse the cupping problem becomes. Replies to this message: joeluc13 (Sep 08, 2005 10:23 pm)

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