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#40 of 102 Re: tonylexus... [iluvmysephia1] by tonylexus Apr 08, 2005 (8:42 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 08, 2005 6:32 am) I haven't had to go back to the dealer for anything other than my free oil changes since Oct (8800 miles). Yes, it is AT.   I have Black Cherry. Great in the sun and takes on a new life at night. Of course, you have to keep it clean. Like the silver too - it was my second choice, but my other car is silver as was the one before that, and now it seems every-other car out there is silver. Like black too but it just didn't seem to fit the car. Believe it or not, the white looks good, but Black Cherry won out for me. Was lucky enough to see every color lined up next to each other in sun-shade, Black Cherry impressed me most.   Only option I bought was auto-dimming mirror, one of those things that once you had one can't live without it. Comes in handy in a vehicle that low. Has a nice feature - an ambient light that shines down on the counsol in choice of 3 colors.   Hope your initial luck will be as good as mine - the odds are with you, it's a Toyota.
#41 of 102 iluv by nippononly Apr 08, 2005 (10:50 am)
"the Scion tC wins over the RSX by a large margin."   What you get for the extra money with the Acura is superb handling and a stereo without a ton of little buttons and plastic aluminum. I like that the Acura radio has rotary knobs for volume and tuning. Three things that are important to me (handling, stereo, no pluminum), but I could easily see where they would not be worth the premium for many buyers. And the flip side of the stereo thing is the tC has a better one for sound.   Plus I am not too sure how much I would ike a roof that is all glass - how are people feeling about how hot this makes the interior in the summer?   Of course, it clinched it that the tC wasn't actually out yet when I bought my car! Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 11, 2005 4:34 am)
#42 of 102 nippononly... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 08, 2005 (6:11 pm)
I was only going on emotion when I typed that out, man! I like the Acura RSX, too, but I am floored by this new Scion tC and I must start thinking of convincing reasons now to tell my wife why we must get one. I can't believe I'm typing this but I like the tC in silver. It looks especially nice on this small coupe from Scion. My first choice is BCP, too, tonylexus, and I also like the Indigo Ink color as well. I like 'em all on this rig!   The auto-dimming mirror sounds like a great idea, really.   I have heard that the tC's glass roof is tinted a tad. Is that true, tonylexus? I think that is a true statement. It gets scorchingly hot in Pierre, South Dakota, but not humid, thankfully. A tinted top should help with sunburnt head-tops, eh?   My top reason to convince the wife is the tC's better gas mileage. Should be in the upper 20's, right? The Sportage gets around 19 city, 25 highway, with it's 5-speed tranny. Yeah, I've heard that the tC's stereo rocks nicely. I've made my contact with the sales people already and we have each other's e-mail addresses. Now, to come up with additional reasons to trade-in. Here's one: the Scion will hold resale value better than the Sportage, right? I'm gettin' those ducks lined up, men! Another one-the Sportage's trade-in value is gonna be slipping quickly now-it's got 95,350 miles right now. That's a good reason, too, right? That Sportage is in tip-top shape, though. Mint condition. Should get $4500-$5,000 trade-in value for it.   BTW-Pierre, SD, has an "earthen-rolled dam" built 6 miles north of town. It is all underneath you as you drive over it and on one side there's a huge lake created by the dam. There's the huge turbines sticking out of the lake. Lake Oahe and the Oahe Dam... down below the Missouri River continues flowing along towards Pierre. It is one of only a few dams in the world like that...earthen filled like that...the powerhouse built solid way down below your car as you cruise over it. Beautiful views from up there. Pierre is also a sportsman's paradise..hunting grouse and other fowl and fishing from the Missouri River and Lake Oahe. Several varieties can be had and the water is fresh and unpolluted. I may eventually buy a few kayaks and maybe a powerboat living there. But it does get hot during July and August-at times over 100. A tinted glasstop is a necessity. Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 11, 2005 4:56 am)
#43 of 102 Re: iluv [nippononly] by tonylexus Apr 11, 2005 (4:34 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 08, 2005 10:50 am) Can't disagree with you too much. The handling on the RSX is better, but again, not enough to separate these cars by a great deal. I too prefer knobs and let Scion know this, but $2k a knob wasn't worth it, especially, as you say, for a radio with lesser sound. The extra buttons on the radio are for SAT Ready, and MP3, something I don't think you got with the RSX. As for the plastic, to each his own, but I can find what some would call 'cheap plastic' on the interior of cars costing 5 times what the tC cost - that's just what is used now-a-days.   The glass top has not presented any problem and looks unique. This is personal preference, but I prefer the tC syling as well - again more unique.   I can appreciate the choice you made based on what is most important to you. I looked long and hard at the top models in this class (RSX, Mini S, Mazda3...) and with all things considered I still believe you can't beat the tC. I enjoyed a great cruise vacation with the money I 'saved' opting for the tC and the car has exceeded my expectations.
#44 of 102 Re: nippononly... [iluvmysephia1] by tonylexus Apr 11, 2005 (4:56 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 08, 2005 6:11 pm) No doubt you should do better than 19 MPG city. The glass top has presented no problems. I would expect that your weather would be similar to what I get here in Michigan - anything from -10 to +100. I was pleasantly impressed with the tC this winter, warmed up fast and handled well. Have been thru some hot days but not mid summer. I don't expect any problems.   When I first showed the tC to my wife, she thought I was crazy for considering such a small car. The best way to convince your wife is do what I did - take her for a ride in one. Obviously, it worked.
#45 of 102 tony by nippononly Apr 11, 2005 (11:27 am)
*chuckle*   Liked the "$2K per knob" thing!   The way I figure it, the better handling and 200+ pounds less weight of the RSX are worth (speaking only for myself of course) $2000, the radio knobs are worth a couple hundred bucks (totally irrational, I know), the nicer interior plastics with the rubber dash surround in the RSX is worth $1000 easy, and the lack of plastic aluminum is worth a good $500 or so. Since I paid $19K flat for the Acura, I figure I saved about $1200 by my own estimation.   Add to that a week-to-week average of 31 mpg, where I know it would be hard to get near 30 in the tC, and I don't regret it. Indeed, my doubts if any tend the other way: for the same price (or a little less) as my car I could have had the Matrix XRS or the Mazda3s five-door, and gotten myself two extra doors to properly carry three passengers. With similar straight-line performance to our cars. It has proven to be the case that I don't carry passengers that often, and my old 4Runner will do the duty sometimes anyway, so I am pretty satisfied overall. Not to mention I am not a huge fan of those cars' interiors either. Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 13, 2005 5:01 am)
#46 of 102 tonylexus... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 11, 2005 (9:12 pm)
well, we can get a nice, long drive from the only Scion dealer in South Dakota, Billion Automotive, in Sioux Falls, SD, back out west to Pierre! I'll give us a few days(or weeks)to get settled in and then make the sojourn of 225 miles to the east to Billion. I just read a good report on the tC's air conditioning working very well. That should score good points with her. I'm actually hoping nobody else buys the 5-speed silver one over there so we can test drive that one. Whoo-hoo!
#47 of 102 roof by stickguy Apr 12, 2005 (11:05 am)
it's tinted pretty well. Doesn;'t seem to cause a heating problem, and you do have shades. I tend to have mine open whenever possible, so that does let in the sun.
#48 of 102 stickguy... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 12, 2005 (8:50 pm)
exactly! That's the reason to have a sunroof-to let the sun shine in! I've never had a man-made hole in any of my car's roofs before-kinda lookin' forward to it.
#49 of 102 Re: tony [nippononly] by tonylexus Apr 13, 2005 (5:01 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 11, 2005 11:27 am) Glad you like the RSX, I'm sure I too would have been thrilled with one. I, however, could not touch one here (w/AT) for under 20k and that was an '04 vs an '05 tC (which would mean up to $1,500 come resale time). I paid 17,265 w/AT & auto-dim mirror. Add 6% tax to price difference and it was too much of a difference given (my opinion) that there wasn't anything of significance to justify it. If I was going to spend over 20k, I would have bought a used Lexus IS. That's what it came down to for me.   If you're getting 31MPG, bless you. You're right, I am not doing that well (28.5 average) and there are others complaining of getting less than me. I was shopping for a daily commuter that I could have some fun in and not give up the 'luxury' features I've come accustomed to. The tC fit the bill in every respect and at a price over $2k less than anything comparable in the class.   I'm not afraid to pay extra for something worthwhile. While I liked a lot of things about the RSX and other competitors, I just couldn't see what I was getting for the extra bucks. Call me cheap, but I have no regrets and I do understand why you made the choice you made.

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