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#37 of 102 Re: tonylexus... [iluvmysephia1] by tonylexus Apr 08, 2005 (4:55 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 07, 2005 8:44 pm) I've heard what I think was the roof-pop twice on extremely cold mornings as I turned down and out of my driveway - otherwise no popping problem and no other sounds from the top.   Any rattles or creaks have been minor and intermittent. I did have the rattle in the rear (hatch I believe) off and on and was going to have it addressed at my last dealer visit (oil) but have not noticed it at all for a couple of weeks so didn't mention it.   My other car is a Lexus, so any aggrevating noices in the tC would be quite noticable in comparison, but I must say that there has been nothing I would consider a problem and nothing that has been consistantly noticable. Whatever creaks or "voices" that do arise are minor, not constant and disappear as fast as they came. Anything of significance would drive me nuts, believe me!   All-in-all, I would not complain about any obtrusive noises. The car is solid, feels substantial and does not in any way come close to the "rattle-trap" status common in this size and class of car. As for 'petty', I agree that some people like to complain. What's nice about the tC is that if you are one of those people, you really have to look hard and long to find something on the tC. No complaints, no regrets - LOVE IT!
#38 of 102 tonylexus... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 08, 2005 (6:32 am)
what color did you choose? I have looked at silver on the tC on the web, and, I must say, the tC is the only car I've found that looks great in silver. It looks good enough to buy one in silver, and I don't like silver as a car color, normally. I'm moving in another month or so, and the only dealer in that state(200 miles to the east of where I'll be living)has a silver tC in 5-speed form for the base $16,515 price right now. It's mighting tempting to me! I have a feeling, from what I've read about this car, that I would not want to stop driving it. I'd want to take road trips constantly. The first one would be 180 miles west of us to Mount Rushmore.   You have an automatic tranny in yours, right? Glad you're digging yours!   tonylexus...since my dealer will be 200 miles to the east of us...do you think I'd stand a pretty good chance of just driving mine off the lot and not experience any problems that would require me to have to go back to the dealer? It is a Toyota product-I would think so. I only ask that question because the only Scion dealer I've located on the web is in Sioux Falls, SD. That's right, the only one in the state. I will, of course, keep searching for other ones, but that looks like it for now. SIoux Falls sits on the eastern edge of South Dakota and Pierre sits smack dab in the center of the state. I trust Scion build quality enough to proceed if I want to next month with it. Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 08, 2005 8:42 am)
#39 of 102 mileage by nippononly Apr 08, 2005 (8:19 am)
"Not sure what the RSX gets, but I doubt I would have done any better with it gas-wise."   I get 31 mpg all the time in my manual shift, so with the auto I would expect about the same mileage you are getting.
#40 of 102 Re: tonylexus... [iluvmysephia1] by tonylexus Apr 08, 2005 (8:42 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 08, 2005 6:32 am) I haven't had to go back to the dealer for anything other than my free oil changes since Oct (8800 miles). Yes, it is AT.   I have Black Cherry. Great in the sun and takes on a new life at night. Of course, you have to keep it clean. Like the silver too - it was my second choice, but my other car is silver as was the one before that, and now it seems every-other car out there is silver. Like black too but it just didn't seem to fit the car. Believe it or not, the white looks good, but Black Cherry won out for me. Was lucky enough to see every color lined up next to each other in sun-shade, Black Cherry impressed me most.   Only option I bought was auto-dimming mirror, one of those things that once you had one can't live without it. Comes in handy in a vehicle that low. Has a nice feature - an ambient light that shines down on the counsol in choice of 3 colors.   Hope your initial luck will be as good as mine - the odds are with you, it's a Toyota.
#41 of 102 iluv by nippononly Apr 08, 2005 (10:50 am)
"the Scion tC wins over the RSX by a large margin."   What you get for the extra money with the Acura is superb handling and a stereo without a ton of little buttons and plastic aluminum. I like that the Acura radio has rotary knobs for volume and tuning. Three things that are important to me (handling, stereo, no pluminum), but I could easily see where they would not be worth the premium for many buyers. And the flip side of the stereo thing is the tC has a better one for sound.   Plus I am not too sure how much I would ike a roof that is all glass - how are people feeling about how hot this makes the interior in the summer?   Of course, it clinched it that the tC wasn't actually out yet when I bought my car! Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 11, 2005 4:34 am)
#42 of 102 nippononly... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 08, 2005 (6:11 pm)
I was only going on emotion when I typed that out, man! I like the Acura RSX, too, but I am floored by this new Scion tC and I must start thinking of convincing reasons now to tell my wife why we must get one. I can't believe I'm typing this but I like the tC in silver. It looks especially nice on this small coupe from Scion. My first choice is BCP, too, tonylexus, and I also like the Indigo Ink color as well. I like 'em all on this rig!   The auto-dimming mirror sounds like a great idea, really.   I have heard that the tC's glass roof is tinted a tad. Is that true, tonylexus? I think that is a true statement. It gets scorchingly hot in Pierre, South Dakota, but not humid, thankfully. A tinted top should help with sunburnt head-tops, eh?   My top reason to convince the wife is the tC's better gas mileage. Should be in the upper 20's, right? The Sportage gets around 19 city, 25 highway, with it's 5-speed tranny. Yeah, I've heard that the tC's stereo rocks nicely. I've made my contact with the sales people already and we have each other's e-mail addresses. Now, to come up with additional reasons to trade-in. Here's one: the Scion will hold resale value better than the Sportage, right? I'm gettin' those ducks lined up, men! Another one-the Sportage's trade-in value is gonna be slipping quickly now-it's got 95,350 miles right now. That's a good reason, too, right? That Sportage is in tip-top shape, though. Mint condition. Should get $4500-$5,000 trade-in value for it.   BTW-Pierre, SD, has an "earthen-rolled dam" built 6 miles north of town. It is all underneath you as you drive over it and on one side there's a huge lake created by the dam. There's the huge turbines sticking out of the lake. Lake Oahe and the Oahe Dam... down below the Missouri River continues flowing along towards Pierre. It is one of only a few dams in the world like that...earthen filled like that...the powerhouse built solid way down below your car as you cruise over it. Beautiful views from up there. Pierre is also a sportsman's paradise..hunting grouse and other fowl and fishing from the Missouri River and Lake Oahe. Several varieties can be had and the water is fresh and unpolluted. I may eventually buy a few kayaks and maybe a powerboat living there. But it does get hot during July and August-at times over 100. A tinted glasstop is a necessity. Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 11, 2005 4:56 am)
#43 of 102 Re: iluv [nippononly] by tonylexus Apr 11, 2005 (4:34 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Apr 08, 2005 10:50 am) Can't disagree with you too much. The handling on the RSX is better, but again, not enough to separate these cars by a great deal. I too prefer knobs and let Scion know this, but $2k a knob wasn't worth it, especially, as you say, for a radio with lesser sound. The extra buttons on the radio are for SAT Ready, and MP3, something I don't think you got with the RSX. As for the plastic, to each his own, but I can find what some would call 'cheap plastic' on the interior of cars costing 5 times what the tC cost - that's just what is used now-a-days.   The glass top has not presented any problem and looks unique. This is personal preference, but I prefer the tC syling as well - again more unique.   I can appreciate the choice you made based on what is most important to you. I looked long and hard at the top models in this class (RSX, Mini S, Mazda3...) and with all things considered I still believe you can't beat the tC. I enjoyed a great cruise vacation with the money I 'saved' opting for the tC and the car has exceeded my expectations.
#44 of 102 Re: nippononly... [iluvmysephia1] by tonylexus Apr 11, 2005 (4:56 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 08, 2005 6:11 pm) No doubt you should do better than 19 MPG city. The glass top has presented no problems. I would expect that your weather would be similar to what I get here in Michigan - anything from -10 to +100. I was pleasantly impressed with the tC this winter, warmed up fast and handled well. Have been thru some hot days but not mid summer. I don't expect any problems.   When I first showed the tC to my wife, she thought I was crazy for considering such a small car. The best way to convince your wife is do what I did - take her for a ride in one. Obviously, it worked.
#45 of 102 tony by nippononly Apr 11, 2005 (11:27 am)
*chuckle*   Liked the "$2K per knob" thing!   The way I figure it, the better handling and 200+ pounds less weight of the RSX are worth (speaking only for myself of course) $2000, the radio knobs are worth a couple hundred bucks (totally irrational, I know), the nicer interior plastics with the rubber dash surround in the RSX is worth $1000 easy, and the lack of plastic aluminum is worth a good $500 or so. Since I paid $19K flat for the Acura, I figure I saved about $1200 by my own estimation.   Add to that a week-to-week average of 31 mpg, where I know it would be hard to get near 30 in the tC, and I don't regret it. Indeed, my doubts if any tend the other way: for the same price (or a little less) as my car I could have had the Matrix XRS or the Mazda3s five-door, and gotten myself two extra doors to properly carry three passengers. With similar straight-line performance to our cars. It has proven to be the case that I don't carry passengers that often, and my old 4Runner will do the duty sometimes anyway, so I am pretty satisfied overall. Not to mention I am not a huge fan of those cars' interiors either. Replies to this message: tonylexus (Apr 13, 2005 5:01 am)
#46 of 102 tonylexus... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 11, 2005 (9:12 pm)
well, we can get a nice, long drive from the only Scion dealer in South Dakota, Billion Automotive, in Sioux Falls, SD, back out west to Pierre! I'll give us a few days(or weeks)to get settled in and then make the sojourn of 225 miles to the east to Billion. I just read a good report on the tC's air conditioning working very well. That should score good points with her. I'm actually hoping nobody else buys the 5-speed silver one over there so we can test drive that one. Whoo-hoo!

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