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#13 of 102 Effects of tC Pricing by hpmctorque Feb 23, 2005 (8:32 pm)
If one buys into the notion that the RSX and tC net out as comparable, or close to comparable, except for price, then I imagine that for '06 the redesigned Civic coupe will be the Honda that competes most directly with the tC. I'm thinking that the next generation RSX will move up market in terms of content and performance, to justify the price differential with the tC.
#14 of 102 no next rsx? by carlisimo Feb 23, 2005 (10:05 pm)
I don't see the RSX surviving at all. The new Civic Si is going to have the RSX-S's drivetrain plus a limited slip differential... not much point to the Acura then. The rest of the Civic line is moving up, now that a cheaper Honda is on the way. Combined with the RSX's small sales numbers (less than the Element!) I don't see it being remade. Replies to this message: joshs (Feb 24, 2005 10:42 am)
#15 of 102 carlisimo... by hpmctorque Feb 24, 2005 (8:23 am)
Sounds logical, or the RSX could be replaced by a TSX coupe or hatchback, to differentiate it from the Civic Si. This would appeal to those who prefer the double wishbone suspension and 2.4 engine.
#16 of 102 and by tlcman Feb 24, 2005 (9:58 am)
and 10 less hp
#17 of 102 Re: no next rsx? [carlisimo] by joshs Feb 24, 2005 (10:42 am)
Replying to: carlisimo (Feb 23, 2005 10:05 pm) The current RSX is in many ways a "stepped up" Civic Si, so it's possible that the next RSX would simply improve the new Si a step further.   Alternately, if they did base the next one on the TSX, why wouldn't they tweak the 2.4L to get more power? I don't see Acura abandoning the line, entirely, if only because of the entry-level firecracker it gives them.
#18 of 102 RSX future by nippononly Feb 24, 2005 (4:28 pm)
I am all but convinced the next RSX will merely be a two-door version of the TSX, with a $25K+ base price, and an optional type-S engine making at least 240 hp. As such it will be a bigger car than I would want, making this my last and only RSX probably.   But it is a very compelling argument that HOnda very quickly now needs to stop all this overlap between the two divisions, particularly as (1) the new Civic is about to arrive and will be very competitive in terms of performance with other "pocket rockets", and (2) a $20K starting price is just too low for Acura these days - among all car sales that is more than 25% below the average new car sale price.   I would have been very happy with my current car whether it said "Acura" or "Honda" on it. Call it what you will, Honda. Just don't abandon the compact performance scene the way you have been perilously close to doing the last four or five years.   And it wouldn't be a bad idea, while they are at it, to have a four-door high-performance Civic in addition to the coupe, to face off with the likes of the WRX and Mazda3 (and SRT-4, and Cobalt S/C, and...).
#19 of 102 Circling back... by hpmctorque Feb 24, 2005 (5:14 pm)
to my message above, it occurred to me that, just as the RSX competes with the Civic Si, a coupe version of the TSX would compete with the Accord coupe. One way to differentiate the Acura from the Honda would be for the TSX to feature AWD.
#20 of 102 hpmctorque by nippononly Feb 25, 2005 (7:31 am)
yes, that is true. I am not sure RSX has any future at all - it is obvious that the market for coupes is slowing down, and that is even more true if you move up from compact to midsizers, like the Accord and TSX.   Toyoa didn't waste time when its own product began to overlap too much - they promptly killed the Celica so it would not compete for tC sales. Honda should maybe think about taking the same kind of tough measures. Replies to this message: skytzo (Feb 28, 2005 12:21 pm)
#21 of 102 I've made a new topic... by akl88 Feb 27, 2005 (4:24 pm)
so Go to the topic Honda Accord V-6 coupe vs. Mazda 3 SP23 vs Acura RSX if you want to post.   Thanx Akl
#22 of 102 Re: hpmctorque [nippononly] by skytzo Feb 28, 2005 (12:21 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Feb 25, 2005 7:31 am) Honestly, I thought the RSX was the coupe version of the TSX. It looks like it to me. Same style, same design, only 2 doors less and some other small changes.   The Civis-SI is an ugly duckling compared to the RSX. This is why I think they should at least keep the body style of the RSX or update the Civic-Si. I just dont find anything appealing visually about the Si.   The Tc on the other hand is a great looking car, and though I have yet to test drive it, it sounds like a decent ride also.

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