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#982 of 4696 Re: We test drove a RAV4 today [rsaltus1]
Jan 01, 2006 (12:09 am)
I can't remember if it had the side airbags. I'm disappointed that this isn't standard.
Ideally, we'd like a decent cloth with auto climate control & side airbags. Since decent cloth is apparently not available and since auto climate is only available in the limited, I guess we'll look at leather/heated seats & side airbags (but no moonroof or any other pricey add-ons that jack the price up further). I have a feeling it's going to be very difficult to find this. Also, even if we can get Toyota to discount to, say, $500 over invoice, the invoice price is only like $1500 below retail. So that means a limited like we want it is going to cost around $25K. That's a lot for a RAV. You can buy a base 2005 Murano around here for that (no leather but everything else, imo, is nicer). The whole cost issue is depressing, as is the package nonsense. It makes me wonder if we should explore a Mariner or something like that which is discounted big around here.
#983 of 4696 Re: We test drove a RAV4 today [edgor]
Jan 01, 2006 (8:52 am)
Keep in mind that nothing can compare to TOYOTA quality and reliability. I just traded in a brand new 2005 Odyssey for a 2006 Sienna... and oooh boy what a difference in QUALITY of that TOYOTA Sienna. Never again anything else except TOYOTA ... keep up the good job TOYOTA!
#984 of 4696 waiting for deals
Jan 01, 2006 (9:46 am)
Is it realistic to think dealers will negotiate on RAV4 prices any time soon? It's getting such great reviews, has good mpg, and the extra bit of room so many people want. When will supplies be ample enough to overcome demand and force the prices down? And how long before customer feedback leads to them offering more reasonable packages?
If prices would soften in 3 months, I might wait. If it's going to be 6 months or more, it may not be worth it.
rs in boston
PS I talked to Ira Toyota north of Boston, and they say they have 20 vehicles coming in beginning next week.
#985 of 4696 Re: We test drove a RAV4 today [edgor]
Jan 01, 2006 (10:15 am)
You find fault with the interior quality of the RAV, but are looking to the Mariner? Have you felt the plastics atop the dash? What about the RAV's excellent electroluminescent instrumentation? According to Carsdirect.com, in my region a Murano FWD is just under $26K, which is a great deal... but werent you interested in AWD? The cloth in the Murano is the same cheap grade used in the Altima is it not? I'd be hard pressed to think that the RAVs is worse than that...
I think people have it in their heads that "X" price for a certain vehicle is too much. Well, times change. A $25K RAV seems very reasonable to me, especially given the comprehensiveness of the package. 10 years ago, I think people would be having heart attacks at the thought of $$29K Accords, for example, but thats what an EXV6-Navi costs. With respect to the RAV, the redesign has the vehicle playing a different ballgame against larger contenders, and I feel it will aquit itself well.
#986 of 4696 Saw 2 RAv4 LTDs at Marietta Toyota
Jan 01, 2006 (10:21 am)
yesterday, one in white and one in black. Also saw a red Sport version. The spousal unit liked the black LTD and the Sport pretty well, and thought that with leather and a V6 the black LTD probably would be a pretty good compromise vehicle - something for her to commute in, for us to take the kids to college in, and for us take some trips in - up to 3 adults. Not sure that 4 adults in that vehicle on trips over an hour or two would work.
The couple of things that we didn't like about the LTD and sport were (1) the middle seats are both moderately comfortable at best, which is ok if you're driving an hour or so, but not if you're taking long trips; and (2) we thought the slide open compartment in front of the passenger seat on the LTD and Sport was a little cheesy. I'd be afraid of breaking it when I lean back in the passenger side with my shoes off and put my feet up on the dashboard on long trips. (:>) Otherwise we both liked the vehicle, and the spousal unit said she could see us adding that vehicle to our stable in a year or so.
We decided to wait on buying an SUV until after the LTD/V6 is available, the first year bugs are ironed out and any modifications/additions are made to the RAv. We also want to see what the '07 CRV and Acura RDX will look like, which should be about mid-06 according to the Honda dealer. By then we suspect the current RAv mania and MSRP pricing will be moderating sufficiently to make a purchase decision worthwhile.
In the meantime yesterday we traded the 2004 Mazda3 stickshift for a Honda Accord EXLV6. Also a great car. And dealing on the last day of the year when the dealer had 600 cars on the lot - and an allocation to protect - didn't hurt at all.
#987 of 4696 Re: Saw 2 RAv4 LTDs at Marietta Toyota [atlhoosier]
Jan 01, 2006 (11:02 am)
"I'd be afraid of breaking it when I lean back in the passenger side with my shoes off and put my feet up on the dashboard on long trips. (:>) "
Please be careful, that is INCREDIBLY dangerous in any vehicle with a passenger side airbag, you run the risk of destroying your limbs in a relatively minor crash.
#988 of 4696 Re: We test drove a RAV4 today [alpha01]
Jan 01, 2006 (12:19 pm)
I haven't seen a Mariner yet, just mentioning that as one example I may need to look to since 25K is a lot of money for a small SUV (in my book, ymmv). I am well aware of Ford's quality issues.
Also, I am fine with FWD. In fact, the 25K price I mentioned for a RAV4 limited is for FWD. If you do a rav up like I suggested before with AWD, the price jumps to something like 27K. For a RAV!
The Murano's cloth is fine and better than the RAV4s. The 2006 CRV is also significantly better. "With respect to the RAV, the redesign has the vehicle playing a different ballgame against larger contenders..." Which is exactly why they should not have used lousy cloth in it...
Don't get me wrong, the RAV is a good vehicle and I would love to own one, I just don't think it's as good a deal as I first thought.
#989 of 4696 Re: waiting for deals [rsaltus1]
Jan 01, 2006 (12:20 pm)
Hang in there rsaltus1. This is not a good time to buy. In three months the prices will be better. Six month's even more so. I'm considering in 7-8 months to look at buying.
Also around then the 2007 CRV should be out.
#990 of 4696 A Worthy Competitor
Jan 01, 2006 (12:50 pm)
Well guys, I know this is a little off-topic but why don't Rav4 buyers consider the Kia Sportage. I know,I know it doesn't have as much reputation as the Toyota brand name has-but seriously, it is not a bad car.
I think it's great, for the price of a base 4cl Rav4 you could get a fully loaded 4cyl or V6. Both engines are sufficiently powerful and it has a really adorable interior. Superb materials used. I am telling you, Kia is not as bad as it seems.
Jan 01, 2006 (1:56 pm)
I finally saw the new Rav, and I was not that impressed. They had one parked next to the Highlander, and the Highlander was noticeably wider and larger. The rear of the RAV is a no go for me given the spare tire and the way the rear tailgate opens. I am looking for a vehicle with dimensions the size of the Highlander, and I just hoped for more with the RAV.
My dealership had six units at their main lot, and probably some more in back. They are beginning to get them in, so I'm very surprised that they were not already sold. I received an email quote for $1,000 off of the MSRP ($23.5K for a base 4*4), plus ttl.
I would recommend not purchasing one until dealers have more than a few units on the lot. There is a big price difference between other compact SUVs as noted by the other posters.