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#61 of 4666 Lexus RX230h by wwest Jun 09, 2005 (11:12 am)
Is my dream...RAV4 hybrid using the 2.3L I4. Replies to this message: jchan2 (Jun 09, 2005 2:12 pm)
#62 of 4666 Re: Lexus RX230h [wwest] by jchan2 Jun 09, 2005 (2:12 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Jun 09, 2005 11:12 am) Doesn't the RX already have a hybrid though?   How about the Lexus MX230h?
#63 of 4666 RX hybrid..... by wwest Jun 09, 2005 (4:43 pm)
Sure, a hybrid touting V8 performance but not fuel economy...   Going after the boy-racer market I guess. Replies to this message: jchan2 (Jun 10, 2005 4:02 pm)
#64 of 4666 Re: RX hybrid..... [wwest] by jchan2 Jun 10, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Jun 09, 2005 4:43 pm) True. I'd like to see a Lexus Hybrid touting economy priced at $45,000...   Guess that's the Highlander Hybrid's territory...
#65 of 4666 The difference between a Lexus hybrid and a Toyota one by chris65amg Jun 10, 2005 (4:24 pm)
Lexus hybrids sell because they are chic. That's it. Some extra horsepower, and you get to hold it over your neighbor whose FX35 gets 20mpg.   Toyota's hybrids= less power, less prestige, less fuel.
#66 of 4666 chris by nippononly Jun 10, 2005 (8:43 pm)
except....don't the HL and RX hybrids have identical powertrains?   They should have a RAV hybrid next time out - this is a car that has never had earth-shaking fuel economy. Replies to this message: petl (Jun 11, 2005 9:28 am) nippononly (Jun 13, 2005 6:37 am) cammer2 (Jun 13, 2005 8:26 am)
#67 of 4666 Re: chris [nippononly] by petl Jun 11, 2005 (9:28 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Jun 10, 2005 8:43 pm) In the small SUV segment the RAV's overall mpg is 21. It is equal to the Forester (21) and the CRV (21) and better than the Outlander (20), Element (20), Vue (19), Escape (18), Tribute (18), Santa Fe (18), Equinox (17), XL-7 (17), Freelander (17), Sorento (15), Liberty (15). I'm not sure if any of these are earth-shaking. However, the RAV's is at the high end of what the others are getting. It has a better mpg rating than any (non-hybrid) SUV sold to date. The only vehicles that have a higher mpg rating are these wagons/hatchbacks... Vibe, Matrix and Focus. Should there be a hybrid RAV? Possibly. Is the RAV's fuel economy terrible? I don't think so. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jun 13, 2005 6:37 am) cammer2 (Jun 13, 2005 8:26 am)
#68 of 4666 Oops by chris65amg Jun 12, 2005 (10:00 am)
"except....don't the HL and RX hybrids have identical powertrains? "   Yeah. Yeah, they do....
#69 of 4666 Re: chris [petl] by nippononly Jun 13, 2005 (6:37 am)
Replying to: petl (Jun 11, 2005 9:28 am) Sorry, didn't mean to imply fuel economy was "terrible", that is why I used the words "not earth shaking". Which it isn't. All the sub-20s you quote there are V-6s with lots of extra speed over the RAV. The 20-and-ups are a minority in the list you provide.   These are small vehicles - basically high-roofed cars with the most rudimentary of AWD systems - so I wish they would do better for gas saving. In an age when Toyota manages to extract high 30s from the Corolla fairly easily, I would like to see high 20s in the RAV on which it is based.   As it is, if I were looking for something a little less trucky than my Runner, which probably will be replaced with an FJ or an XTerra (crappy gas mileage all around), I would be waiting for EPA numbers in this segment to rise quite a bit before shopping.   The Escape V-6 was only about five points lower in fuel economy than RAV is, yet it paid off for them to make a hybrid of that model...which soundly trounces RAV on gas mileage (at a higher price of course)..... Replies to this message: cammer2 (Jun 13, 2005 8:26 am)
#70 of 4666 Re: chris [nippononly] by cammer2 Jun 13, 2005 (8:26 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Jun 13, 2005 6:37 am) I may be mistaken, but doesn't the Escape hybrid use the 4-cylinder, instead of the V6?

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