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#452 of 4696 Third row Pilot and Highlander vs. RAV4
Nov 05, 2005 (8:13 pm)
I'm 6'2" and have owned a 2004 Pilot. With the 2nd row pushed forward a few inches, the 3rd row was tolerable for short trips even for me. The 3rd row will hold average sized adults (say under 5'10") decently, if they can climb back there. The Explorer offers about the same room, but is narrower and hence only holds 2 people.
I thought it was crazy when Toyota began offering the Highlander and 4Runner with a 3rd row, but it makes sense from a marketing perspective. The idea of the RAV4 having a 3rd row now seems ridiculous, but it does give someone the option of putting a small child in the 3rd row in a pinch. I hope we can get an AWD V-6 limited without the 3rd row.
Since the new RAV4 is so much larger, I've got to think that the next generation Highlander will probably be as large or larger than the current Pilot. I think the only reason to prefer the Highlander at this point is if you don't like the rear hatch and spare tire location in the RAV4 or want a Hybrid.
Given the project fuel economy for the RAV4, I doubt you'd get much better real world mileage in a Hybrid Highlander. And, you'd save $10k in the process, for a similar size vehicle with an updated design.
#453 of 4696 Re: Canadian Specs [guy26]
Nov 07, 2005 (11:48 am)
Dealers in Canada have the specs, feature list and colour choices for the 2006 4-cyl model and are able to place orders for December delivery. Too early yet for prices, or anything on the V6. Based on the feature list it doesn't seem that we get side airbags on the 2006 4-cyl in our market. The 4-cyl trims are called Base and Upper Grade.
#454 of 4696 Re: RAV [scottkopperud]
Nov 07, 2005 (2:36 pm)
I don't know. I would have to physically send my 13 year old son back there to tell the difference.
But the Pilot should offer better seating as its bigger.
Then again, a Sienna or Odyssey would be most optimal if you're carrying many passengers often or just appreciate the extra space. (I sure do)
#455 of 4696 Re: RAV [scottkopperud]
Nov 07, 2005 (4:10 pm)
Pilot is on the Odessey frame
Highlander ( until further notice ) is on the Camry frame
RAV is smaller in every dimension than the Highlander
I'd say 15 min MAX in row 3 for a couple of 10 yr olds who aren't siblings.
#456 of 4696 Availability of a show-model in dealerships?
Nov 08, 2005 (9:28 am)
I live in CA and was wondering if any of you know whether dealerships have show-models of the 06 RAV4, and if not when do you anticipate this happening? I am highly interested, but I need to test drive one first. I am between the AWD Rav4 4 cyl. and the Forester XT. Can't make up my mind yet...
#457 of 4696 Luggage space
Nov 08, 2005 (11:11 am)
Another factor to look at is not only the space in the 3rd row, but the space behind it. If you're ever planning on needing a reasonably amount of luggage space behind the 3rd row, you may not find much in the Pilot, Highlander, etc. We have a Ford Freestyle. Not as wide as the Pilot, but longer, so the 3rd row seats only two, but there's plenty of leg room for adults and space behind the 3rd row for luggage. The 2nd row is huge too. But if it's only kids to sit in the 3rd row and you're not worried about the luggage space, then you have a lot of options.
#458 of 4696 Re: Luggage space [bobw3]
Nov 08, 2005 (12:32 pm)
Yes, but your FreeStyle is FWD torque biased and does not have VSC...!
Ford still cutting "class" corners.
#459 of 4696 Re: V6 Availability - Feb 2006
Nov 08, 2005 (1:24 pm)
For those interested in the V6, check out page 4 of the online brochure which says that the V6 is not available until early February 06. I am sure the dealerships will not have any until then. Is the V6 the only model with the 3rd row available?
I am not sure if I can wait that long plus I am probably looking at a Pilot or Odyssey for the 3rd row. I know it doesn't really fit the character of the car but if the Murano had a 3rd row, I might be interested. I never thought that would be a big selling point but in the last year I have used the 3rd row on my MDX quite frequently.
#460 of 4696 Re: Luggage space [wwest]
Nov 08, 2005 (1:48 pm)
True, but I only have the FWD version anyway.
#461 of 4696 Re: Luggage space [wwest]
Nov 08, 2005 (2:14 pm)
Its still a nice car though. Especially at year end when Ford rolled out the Employee Pricing Red Carpet.