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#399 of 4696 Canadian Specs
Oct 26, 2005 (2:56 pm)
Well, I just got some ordering info from my local Canadian Toyota Dealer. The news is not good for me....maybe other people will be satisfied.
This first order (what they call Nov and Dec allotments) is only for 4 cylinder versions....6 cylinders to follow.
It seems that Toyota Canada has made things really simple.....just 2 flavours Base 4WD and upper grade 4WD. Pricing is not announced but the upper grade version will be $4000-4400. more than the base.
Automatics only....no 5 speed option! No mention on if it is 4 speed or 5 speed auto.
Here are the highlights:
BASE RAV4 has the following:
Dual front airbags
17" styled steel wheels
Vehicle Stability,Control Traction Control, On demand electronic 4WD
Super Electronically controled Transmission (ECT)
Electric Power Steering
The Upper Grade Rav4 adds the following for $4000-4400 more:
6 disc CD changer
dual zone A/C
upgraded seat material
power drivers seat with lumbar
leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter
Large capacity storage box under rear deck
Chrome grill, moulded spare tire cover
colored door handles and rear spoiler
Towing capacity rated at 2000lbs and 60 litre fuel tank.
So there you have it....what REALLY BOTHERED ME:
No side airbags!!!!!!
No mention of a 3'rd row seat (must be a 6 cyl only option)
No Manual Tranny
Don't they notice Kia and Hyundai adding side and curtain airbags to everything!!!
The base unit has decent features if the price is good. My guess Base at $26-27K Canadian with the upper at $30-31K.
I'm sure the US cars will have more options available...likely inc side airbags which is the current situation (2005 Rav no side airbags in Canada but yes in US)
I had high hopes but now I'm feeling bad....wife would like a 3'rd row seat for kids and their friends and I wanted side airbags....have to keep limping along with my 98 Forester S....2007 Mitsubishi Outlander??
#400 of 4696 Re: Canadian Specs [tupin]
Oct 26, 2005 (4:43 pm)
I am sure now that toyota is falling behind its main competitors. Honda's accord cost almost exactly the same as camry, but 30,000 cnd $ accord comes with features such as telescoping steering wheel and automatic a/c. You can get automatic ac but only in V6 top model and no telescoping steering wheel in any model, but it will cost you something like 37000! Yeah, right...who would buy a 37000 dollar camry!? all CR-V models (even the base one)come with side air bags and 5 speed automatic transmission is an option. neither of which you are telling 2006 rav has. so.....
i drove Forester...nice, very nice!!! Subaru will have a completely redesign forester for the late 2007. what do you think is it worth the wait? should i pass on 2006 rav?
#401 of 4696 Re: Canadian Specs [ink]
Oct 26, 2005 (5:39 pm)
ink if your not sure I would wait until you see the 07 Forester. Don't forget the CR-V is getting redesigned in 07 also.
#402 of 4696 Thanks for the info, Tupin
Oct 26, 2005 (5:44 pm)
I'm also feeling less excited about the new RAV4. I was only considering it because it will have a third seat. I'd only need to use it about 20 times a year to haul another two 100-150 pound kids and would much rather stick with the 4cyl. I think you're right that the third seat will only be available with the 6cyl (I think that's the way it is with the current Highlander, too). No side airbags will be a deal-breaker for me. It looks like I'm going to have to shlump around in my Sienna minivan a while longer.
#403 of 4696 US specs likely different
Oct 27, 2005 (3:24 am)
Just to remind people that my list above is for Canadian vehicles. US Rav's will likely have optional side airbags....even in the base car.
I also forgot to mention that Base Rav comes with a telescopic steering wheel.
Next Tuesday there should be much more info on the Rav from the US launch.
#404 of 4696 Re: Canadian Specs [tupin]
Oct 27, 2005 (5:51 am)
Thanks for the preliminary info. Is that official? Don't care about the manual tranny (demand for them is too low). I don't know of too many 4 cyl SUVs that have a 3rd row seat available (nice to have only). With the air side bags, it would be nice if they were made available. I'll reserve comment until it actually arrives.
#405 of 4696 Rims and Towing
Oct 27, 2005 (9:56 am)
17" rims are nice, on the base model, too. Some competitors still use 15"s.
2000 lbs towing? That's it? Pretty wimpy for a V6. Why have all that power and then not let it do the job it could do?
#406 of 4696 Re: Rims and Towing [ateixeira]
Oct 27, 2005 (10:16 am)
2000lbs is for the 4cyl. 3500lbs for the 6cyl.
Oct 27, 2005 (10:58 am)
The RAV will be priced higher...it will sell at MSRP for a while for sure. If they were smart it should now excede the honda crv in many ways...but perhaps not for long as the new V is set to come out soon. My guess is both will cost more. Toyota will price theirs higher and take advantage of those who are willing to pay MSRP...that wave may last until the new C comes out...which no doubt will be priced more as well...who knows! Funny, we were going to wait for a RAV until our dealer told us no new redesign untill 07 (they lied to get us to buy an 05). So we looked at the V and loved it and had very good eoy pricing...but not in a desirable color. So we waited for an 06 V. But now the price has gone up overall on what a V sells for...likely do to it being a decent SUV if you want decent gas milage and likely increased sales. Then we discovered a Forester X, equiped better than a V LX but for 21.2K out the door (automatic, includes rebate). We are just about ready to put a deposit down when I read a newly redesigned Forester is on the horizon. Well, we are tired of waiting! We may just buy an Outback though. It makes no bones about what it is and does everything well. The Forester actually rates better and has almost as much saftely equipment as the Honda, (and if the posts above are true , the 06 RAV). In fact, over all, I think it rates safer. If Subaru wants a REALLY big seller though they need to get more rear legrooom in the rear of the Forester (I am sure Toyota tended to that in the new RAV) and make the sucker sit a little taller.
If there truly is a $4k delta in Rav pricing the base better list at 19K!
#408 of 4696 Re: My gut tells me... [andrelaplume]
Oct 27, 2005 (11:16 am)
I think you should buy the Forester (you seem to be leaning towards it) or whatever vehicle you decide on. It will drive you crazy waiting for something better (improvements will always exist). In reality, we all think we are going to miss out on a better product or deal. Manufacturers will always try to out-do each other. Prices will also move up and down depending on a vehicle's popularity and supply & demand. Once you decide, don't look back (be happy and enjoy). Incidentally, Toyota now owns controlling interest in Subaru.