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Toyota RAV4, SUV
#2167 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [alinl]
Feb 18, 2006 (4:17 pm)
Well the delivery fee of $650 is on all RAVs in the USA I am pretty sure. It shows as $605 on the Toyota web site.
Never heard of an admin fee.
Remember you don't have to pay if you don't buy it. Or buy somethine else. That is always an option.
#2168 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [steve_]
Feb 18, 2006 (4:35 pm)
Yes I have been watching the SE site and wow they do load them up with stuff, some good some bad. $1400 for a lovely set of very nice wheels for example. And lots fees and profit making options. No fee mentioned for "New car washing" but I bet it is in there somewhere. But the site is good to see what is coming in etc. The NE region is lazy I guess. Getting fat on all those "at MSRP" sales so they do not have to provide much stock info on the NE site.
#2170 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [jimd4]
Feb 18, 2006 (8:04 pm)
The SE region is the only independently owned region left. Toyota was able to buy all of the regions, but the SE will not sell. Can't say that I blame them, but it's ridiculous to see the accessories and fees that they tack on. Don't get me started about the $699 "ToyoGuard" option
If anyone ever does buy from the SE and is told that ToyoGuard is standard, that is a lie and go elsewhere. Fortunately some dealers will not accept cars with Toyoguard.
#2171 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [alinl]
Feb 18, 2006 (8:33 pm)
As the poster above mentioned the southeast region is independently owned by one person's family business. As long as he keeps Toyota happy it will remain the same.
As regards the three charges you mention... actually every Toyota store has the same fee, except the $45.
Specifically all vehicles have a destination charge. It's the freight from the point of origin in NA to the local retail store. Toyota's charges are normally on the low side. GM/Ford forexample are in the 700/800 range.
The Admininstration Fee is the often disputed but well-understood 'TDA' on which there is tons of threads here and even a disclaimer on Edmunds and KBB that it is a valid charge. It covers the regional advertising and cost of the regional distributorship, in this case SET.
The $45 is specific to the southern states including SET and Gulf States. It apparently costs more for shipping. I used to be in transportation and if there is a lack of facilities then the cost is higher. NYC / LA / Chicago have massive transportation hubs... Jacksonville does not.
Here is a bigger question for you. When you go to Best Buy or Sears or the like... how often do they break out each and everyone of their costs like this and put them on the internet and then discuss them when you arrive at the store? BTW the same fees for freight, Admin and surcharges are in the Best Buy prices they just bury them from your sight. It's utterly unbelieveable to me that the auto Companies, led by Toyota, open everything up like this.
When you go to Best Buy you see a price and if you like it, the Out-the-Door-Price, then you buy it. Do the same when you buy a car. Decide what you want to pay and then tell them that. If they say No you can always walk away like at Best Buy.
#2172 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [kdhspyder]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 18, 2006 (9:03 pm)
I don't shop Best Buy, but you can get prices knocked down at Sears and other stores. My personal best was getting 20% knocked off a fancy cutting board at Nordstroms 20 years ago. Last week I got a few bucks off a two day ski rental, but that cost me a candy bar.
I even did this once at a grocery store, where everyone claims the price is the price and there's no dickering. But in that case I was getting 40 pounds of catfish fillets for a fish fry and the manager gave me a bulk rate.
All you need to do is nicely ask for a better deal and sometimes the answer will be yes.
#2173 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [alinl]
Feb 18, 2006 (9:29 pm)
I just ordered a RAV4 today. The only extra fees I am being charged is a $25 "Electronic Transfer Fee", a $57.33 "Documentary Fee" and $80 for "Liscense and Title Fee". I was expecting the typical "advertising fee", but none was charged, nor should there be. Delivery fee was $605.
#2174 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [steve_]
Feb 18, 2006 (9:37 pm)
Agreed, jewelry stores are auto stores with smaller facilities. My wife and I came from my job, at an auto store, and went shopping for rings.
Everything was exactly the same;
Ambiguous ads all over the store and in print;
'No this is our best price'
'The sale price is only on the costume jewelry in front'
'OK, I'll offer you 20% off'
'I have to take it to my Mgr'..LOL
'We cant do your offer but we can do...'
'This offer is good only if you get our credit card and finance with us'...double LOLOL
'What's your rate?' '0% for 12 mo's' ' OK'
Do the paprer work, get qualified, write up the order;
'Well we dont have it in inventory we have to get it from another store' LOLOLOL 'but the special price and rate expire today so you have to buy something from inventory" ROTFLMAO.....
#2175 of 4696 Re: strange fees required [wizzobutter]
Feb 18, 2006 (9:44 pm)
The difference is that the prior poster was analyzing the invoice in detail from wholesale price through retail.
+Fin res to dealer
+Admin or TDA
Equals Invoice Price ( might be one other element )
Above this is the dealer margin on which the sales people get paid.
Equals Sticker Price ( MSRP )
Above this are the 'Normal' Fees that each locality has such as St & Loc Taxes, DMV fees, Documentation Fees, etc.