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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2005 6:30 pm) Do you know how much I can tow with the Frontier with 5 passengers and stuff. How about the Tacoma? Pls don't suggest any V8's. V6's only domestic or Japanese is OK. Thanks in advance for your response.
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Replying to: 55535432 (Mar 09, 2005 8:18 pm) Since the GCWR is 10085 and the truck weighs probably somewhere around 4650 with a full tank. Deducting 4650 from 10085 gives you 5435lbs. From that, subtract the weight of your boat, 4000lbs. So you have 1435lbs left for people and gear. Now that is what the truck is rated for. If your not towing far or only on occasion have extra people then you'll probably be OK. If you'll be towing where it's hilly I wouldn't recommend being near or over the GCWR. Hopefully your boat has surge brakes and I would recommend changing the trans fluid after every summer. My boat is about 4500lbs and I've always changed the trans fluid in the Pathfinder every year and haven't had any trans trouble. As for the Tacoma, it has a 11,100lb GCWR and a 4100lb curb weight, so you have an extra 1500lbs to play with, plus quite a bit more power w/ the 4.0 V6. The extra torque will pay dividends and I'll go out on a limb and say it would be the better tow vehicle. The Frontier will be similar to the Tacoma. But they probably aren't as nice of a daily driver. As for a v6 tow vehicle, you can't beat any of these 3. The domestic offerings pale in comparison to the v6s offered by Honda, Nissan, & Toyota. (GMS inline 6s are OK, but you can't get it in a colorado) The bottom line is the if you like the Ridgeline, I think it would do fine job as long as you don't overload it. Looking at your situation if all 5 people weigh 200lbs, which probably isn't the case you have 1000lbs of people and can still have another 450lbs of gear. I do alot of boating with friends and family and I don't think I've ever brought anywhere near that much stuff along. One more thing. Have you every had your boat weighed at a public scale. If not, it might be a good idea to find out exactly what it weighs. They always seem to way more than what the salesmen and brochures claim. Hope this helps....
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2005 9:59 pm) |
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Replying to: 55535432 (Mar 09, 2005 10:18 pm) http://www.trailerboats.com/site_page_1483/article_page_68.cfm
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 10, 2005 6:23 am) Someone on this forum reported that the OWNER'S MANUAL had a table saying something like this: Towing Capacity: 2 Passengers - 5000 lbs 3 Passengers - 3500 lbs 5 Passengers - 2000 lbs I called Honda to see if this was TRUE, but the very polite person on the phone somehow did NOT have the owners' manual either .... Would an actual OWNER with an OWNER's manual be so kind to look this up and verify ... Thanks!
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Replying to: chuck999 (Mar 10, 2005 3:05 pm) "tk67triumph wrote: I did check out the owner's manual for towing info, which is: 5000 w/2 passengers 3500 w/3 passengers 3000 w/4 passengers 2000 w/5 passengers " First - this explains all the * (asterisks) in the BROCHURE ... Second - I think that Honda is being a bit deceptive, with the 5000 lb tow claim. What good is towing a 5000 lb boat or trailer if you've got to leave your three kids and dog home? .... |
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2005 6:30 pm)
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Replying to: chuck999 (Mar 10, 2005 3:05 pm) Bob |
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did check out the owner's manual for towing info, which is: 5000 w/2 passengers 3500 w/3 passengers 3000 w/4 passengers 2000 w/5 passengers " First - this explains all the * (asterisks) in the BROCHURE ... Second - I think that Honda is being a bit deceptive, with the 5000 lb tow claim. What good is towing a 5000 lb boat or trailer if you've got to leave your three kids and dog home? .... THANKS for the above post. i'ts good to know that I've been spared from a potential expensive mistake.I'm a Honda person for life but I'm gonna pass on the Ridgeline.The Ridgeline can't just handle my needs, 5 passengers plus tons of stuff and a 4000 lbs boat.
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If you look at the tow ratings of most vehicles, the max tow rating doesn't leave much room for extra weight in the truck. Thats just the facts, they all do it. That's why it is important to understand how the tow ratings and GCWR relate to one another. The rule of thumb on tow capacities is to keep your towed load under 80% of the vehicles tow rating. That will give you a cushion when you have people and gear in the truck. Which means ANY vehicle with a 5000lb tow rating can in a more real world scenario tow 4000lbs. For comparison, Toyota really cuts the Tacoma close with its max tow rating of 6500lbs. Look at these numbers and you'll see what I mean. The Tacoma has a GCWR of 11,100lbs. 11100 - 4100 curb weight - 6500lb tow rating = 500lbs left for people and gear. I could probably do this for any vehicle and come out with similar results. What is sad is most sales people don't know, or at least tell this to customers and someone ends up buying a tow vehicle with a 5000lb tow rating to pull their 5,000lb boat, and the fully expect to bring along 5 people and their luggage for a weekend trip to the lake that is up in mountains and then they can't understand why they can only go 30mph up a hill. |
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