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Re: Towing [dieselone] by 55535432
Mar 09, 2005 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2005 6:30 pm)

I am a Honda fanboy, albeit a reasonable one.I already placed an order for a Ridgeline but came across the towing issues. I have a 4000 lbs boat which can be towed by the Ridgeline easily as long as it is only me and my wife riding it. However I will have three more family members riding at the back. With 5 people plus a bed full of stuff whats the safest load I could tow now?
 
Do you know how much I can tow with the Frontier with 5 passengers and stuff. How about the Tacoma? Pls don't suggest any V8's. V6's only domestic or Japanese is OK.
 
Thanks in advance for your response.
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Re: Towing [55535432] by dieselone
Mar 09, 2005 (9:59 pm)
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Replying to: 55535432 (Mar 09, 2005 8:18 pm)

In answering your question, it all depends on how much weight you'll be putting in the Ridgeline.
Since the GCWR is 10085 and the truck weighs probably somewhere around 4650 with a full tank. Deducting 4650 from 10085 gives you 5435lbs. From that, subtract the weight of your boat, 4000lbs. So you have 1435lbs left for people and gear. Now that is what the truck is rated for. If your not towing far or only on occasion have extra people then you'll probably be OK. If you'll be towing where it's hilly I wouldn't recommend being near or over the GCWR. Hopefully your boat has surge brakes and I would recommend changing the trans fluid after every summer. My boat is about 4500lbs and I've always changed the trans fluid in the Pathfinder every year and haven't had any trans trouble.
 
As for the Tacoma, it has a 11,100lb GCWR and a 4100lb curb weight, so you have an extra 1500lbs to play with, plus quite a bit more power w/ the 4.0 V6. The extra torque will pay dividends and I'll go out on a limb and say it would be the better tow vehicle. The Frontier will be similar to the Tacoma. But they probably aren't as nice of a daily driver.
 
As for a v6 tow vehicle, you can't beat any of these 3. The domestic offerings pale in comparison to the v6s offered by Honda, Nissan, & Toyota. (GMS inline 6s are OK, but you can't get it in a colorado)
 
The bottom line is the if you like the Ridgeline, I think it would do fine job as long as you don't overload it. Looking at your situation if all 5 people weigh 200lbs, which probably isn't the case you have 1000lbs of people and can still have another 450lbs of gear. I do alot of boating with friends and family and I don't think I've ever brought anywhere near that much stuff along.
 
One more thing. Have you every had your boat weighed at a public scale. If not, it might be a good idea to find out exactly what it weighs. They always seem to way more than what the salesmen and brochures claim. Hope this helps....
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Re: Towing [dieselone] by 55535432
Mar 09, 2005 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2005 9:59 pm)

Thanks a million for your very fast response.I guess I have to go Nissan for my needs. Can't justify paying a whole lot of dough on Tacomas. The only safe Tacomas,with side and curtain airbags comes with a whole lot of unwanted price gouging bells and whistles. Wth Nisaan $250 dollars is all I need to get the optional protective sideairbags I need.
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Re: Towing [55535432] by dieselone
Mar 10, 2005 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: 55535432 (Mar 09, 2005 10:18 pm)

Here's a link to Trailer Boats Magazine's tow vehicle of the year article. The Ridgeline is not included, but the Tacoma, Frontier, Colorado, Dakota, and Ranger are.
 
http://www.trailerboats.com/site_page_1483/article_page_68.cfm
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Re: Towing by chuck999
Mar 10, 2005 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 10, 2005 6:23 am)

I have the Ridgeline brochure but not the Owner's Manual. Throughout the BROCHURE there are lots of *** (Check manual for details) regarding towing.
 
Someone on this forum reported that the OWNER'S MANUAL had a table saying something like this:
 
Towing Capacity:
2 Passengers - 5000 lbs
3 Passengers - 3500 lbs
5 Passengers - 2000 lbs
 
I called Honda to see if this was TRUE, but the very polite person on the phone somehow did NOT have the owners' manual either ....
 
Would an actual OWNER with an OWNER's manual be so kind to look this up and verify ...
 
Thanks!
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Towing Controversy ... by chuck999
Mar 10, 2005 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: chuck999 (Mar 10, 2005 3:05 pm)

SO - on the honda forum someone ANSWERED this question .. Apparently the OWNER'S Manual Reads:
 
"tk67triumph wrote:
 
I did check out the owner's manual for towing info, which is:
 
5000 w/2 passengers
3500 w/3 passengers
3000 w/4 passengers
2000 w/5 passengers "
 
First - this explains all the * (asterisks) in the BROCHURE ...
 
Second - I think that Honda is being a bit deceptive, with the 5000 lb tow claim. What good is towing a 5000 lb boat or trailer if you've got to leave your three kids and dog home? ....
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Re: Towing [dieselone] by 6spdtl
Mar 10, 2005 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2005 6:30 pm)

The average weight for a " normal human" is 70Kg that is exactly 152lbs since the Ridgeline payload capacity is 1558 lbs, that means you can carry 0.5 tons (1000 lbs)in the back plus exactly 3.67 adults in the cab. Your GCWR calculations are entirely correct but that was not what I was talking about. The standard towing capacity of a tacoma is 3500lbs, its payload capacity is 1500lbs (same). And that is with a solid rear axle sorry guys, were are talking you are trying to compare vehicles that are on almost different planets when comparing "truck credentials" between the tacoma and the ridgeline. The ridgline is a compact truck that blows everything in its category clearly out of the water and canplay with the big boys as far as passanger accomodations are concerned. The fact that you can compare the towing capacity of the ridgeline with that of a fullsize truck with an optional big engine while hauling the same amount of weight is not to say that the ridgline can outtow it (DUH)the ford can tow >9000 lbs. Its simply a testament that no midsize truck can even touch its truck credentials. All the while providing a driving expirience that no truck in the planet is even close to offering.
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Re: Towing [chuck999] by rsholland
Mar 10, 2005 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: chuck999 (Mar 10, 2005 3:05 pm)

FWIW, that "someone" was me. Yes, that' what the owners manual states. Also the tongue weights drop with passengers too. Those numbers are also there, but I couldn't remember them.
 
Bob
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Honda deception??? by 55535432
Mar 10, 2005 (6:16 pm)
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did check out the owner's manual for towing info, which is:
  
5000 w/2 passengers
3500 w/3 passengers
3000 w/4 passengers
2000 w/5 passengers "
  
First - this explains all the * (asterisks) in the BROCHURE ...
  
Second - I think that Honda is being a bit deceptive, with the 5000 lb tow claim. What good is towing a 5000 lb boat or trailer if you've got to leave your three kids and dog home? ....
 
THANKS for the above post. i'ts good to know that I've been spared from a potential expensive mistake.I'm a Honda person for life but I'm gonna pass on the Ridgeline.The Ridgeline can't just handle my needs, 5 passengers plus tons of stuff and a 4000 lbs boat.
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Honda's not alone by dieselone
Mar 10, 2005 (6:21 pm)
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If you look at the tow ratings of most vehicles, the max tow rating doesn't leave much room for extra weight in the truck. Thats just the facts, they all do it. That's why it is important to understand how the tow ratings and GCWR relate to one another. The rule of thumb on tow capacities is to keep your towed load under 80% of the vehicles tow rating. That will give you a cushion when you have people and gear in the truck. Which means ANY vehicle with a 5000lb tow rating can in a more real world scenario tow 4000lbs.
 
For comparison, Toyota really cuts the Tacoma close with its max tow rating of 6500lbs. Look at these numbers and you'll see what I mean. The Tacoma has a GCWR of 11,100lbs. 11100 - 4100 curb weight - 6500lb tow rating = 500lbs left for people and gear. I could probably do this for any vehicle and come out with similar results.
What is sad is most sales people don't know, or at least tell this to customers and someone ends up buying a tow vehicle with a 5000lb tow rating to pull their 5,000lb boat, and the fully expect to bring along 5 people and their luggage for a weekend trip to the lake that is up in mountains and then they can't understand why they can only go 30mph up a hill.

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