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152 messages, Last post on Jun 07, 2008 at 4:54 PM
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| For future GM, like to see (1)the rear rigid axle replaced with an independent suspension system in the rear to eliminate that "jittery feel" when the vehicle goes over bumpy or uneven road surface. (2)Remove or put that flat, black "emission" box and hoses under the gas tank somewhere else that's not vulnerable of being ripped off by road debris or getting wet? (3) tweak or replace the transmission to give higher MPG? | |
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There may not be a future Crown Vic/Grand Marquis: http://winnipegsun.com/Business/2006/08/19/1764588-sun.html
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Replying to: johnclineii (Aug 20, 2006 7:31 am) If there is no more Crown Vic/Grand Marquis, Ford will really lose a lot of business from the police, taxi companies and all the people in Kuwait/Saudi Arabia who drive them. (In these two countries, these cars are ridiculously popular.) Lol, that's two bad pieces of news about Ford in the same hour. First they wont be putting a V8 in the MKS and now this. |
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have you personally invested a lot in their stock? It is the shareholders who are most affected and their concern is primary. If a car of ten year old design has to be sacfificed for the future of Ford, so be it. You and I have been wanting the Mustang engine in the CV,GM, and TC for years, but face it, we are in the minority as most of the purchasers like the gas mileage of the status quo.
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Replying to: euphonium (Aug 21, 2006 8:31 am)
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Replying to: pantherapardus (Dec 11, 2006 10:30 am) Borrow from the research and development on the Escape hybrid and introduce a V-6 + Hybrid option for the CV....keep the 4.6 currently in usage...allow for a Marauder-style performance package with a 3-valve 4.6 engine that is already in the Explorer. Update the transmission with ones in the development pipeline. Change the styling from 'go-along' to more 'get out of my way'. My point is, Do Something Bill Ford. Yes, I will argue it has many benefits to offer being just what it is. However, if you want the new, younger buyers to take note, a dash of 21st century appeal must be added to what is a solid 20th century-designed car if you want to save it...and the company that makes it, imho.
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Replying to: bigunit67 (Dec 13, 2006 7:15 pm) Agreed. Everyone wants better fuel efficiency these days. Change the styling from 'go-along' to more 'get out of my way' [...] if you want the new, younger buyers to take note, a dash of 21st century appeal must be added Please, Bill Ford, don't do it. Younger buyers will not buy CV, and you will lose your base. Have we forgotten the "This is not your father's Oldsmobile" and the roaring success of that campaign? Always take care of your core buyers first. I love the styling of the CV and the GM (even more the one before the last GM "refresh"), I just want 3 things: 1a. Passthrough between the trunk and the interior for longer items - or even better - 1b. Wagon option - and of course - 2. Better fuel efficiency (how about a diesel compliant with all 50 states?)
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Replying to: hwyhobo (Dec 13, 2006 10:58 pm)
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Replying to: bigunit67 (Dec 15, 2006 2:51 pm) DaimlerChrysler reported CYTD sales in Nov 2006 of  127K 300s. Ford reported 110K CVs/GMs. Doesn't sound like much of a disparity, particularly considering the amount of advertising DC put into selling that vehicle compared to practically zero advertising from Ford. Crown Vic sells itself because it has established itself with its audience. If you undermine that target market in any way, you better be prepared to plonk a huge amount of money to gain new markets, and it is an iffy proposition. Like I said, with such a following, it would be better to improve where it counts, and to expand its appeal, not change the base offer.
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Replying to: hwyhobo (Dec 17, 2006 7:49 pm) Also, how many of the total of CV/GM sales include the (CV)number sold to govt, police, and taxi fleets? There is a Dodge Charger proposal out there for police depts, but it is just getting launched whereas we all know and fear the black-grilled CV in our rear-view mirrors  I respect the older drivers that own CV's and GM's (going by known demographics alone there) and like the notion of them continuing in the style and manner they currently are. That is their/your right. However, I have lived long enough to see my dad's historically favorite car, the Buick LeSabre, go from RWD to FWD to no drive. The scene changes no matter how much you love something. I know the mods don't want us to get into repetitive discussions, and I don't want to get into tit for tat comebacks with you. I respect your position, but consider this: All I would like to do is to see Ford set out some goals whereby they creatively enhance the CV/GM and assure its continued survival (and renewal for that matter). I fear that if it is left totally alone, with what 5+ years in the car market means as far as tastes go, we could be on life support with it come 2011/2012. We'd be talking about a car that would have been updated once in 20 years at that point...a risk in today's auto world to say the least.
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