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Re: Grand Marquis [peetiedog] by paisan
Jan 04, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: peetiedog (Jan 04, 2008 5:17 pm)

Ah ha NVH, more sound proofing material. Forgot that.
 
-mike
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Inventory by ionosphere1
Jan 04, 2008 (10:30 pm)
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Thanks for all the information. Regarding inventory, I myself recently looked on the Mercury website and looked at inventory of about 10 dealers in this part of the state: my dealer had 1 (the one I testdrove) and none of the oher 9 had a single LS and only 1 other dealer had 2 GS's. I checked this about a week ago so it's probably still the same.
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Inventory by peetiedog
Jan 05, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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What part of Washington are you in? Must be western Washington, near Spokane and Coeur D'Alene, ID area. If so, the dealers out in that area that carry Mercury are usually smaller and are combo stores (Ford/Mercury or Ford L/M). Otherwise one would think that in the greater SeaTac region (from Bellingham, WA down to Salem, OR, and from Aberdeen, WA over to Walla Walla, WA), there would be more of a selection available. There are multiple times more than 10 Mercury points in that region, and the dealer can run a regional locate as quickly as a cross town locate. For a customer who's anxious to have his car sooner, I would. If the exact car exists, maybe the customer would be willing to pay $100-$150 more in transport charges, to have the Seattle dealer trade to get the car from the Portland dealer. Then he could have the car within a day or two, rather than in 3 or 4 months. Also the dealer can have the sale today, rather than months from now; and take the chance that the customer becomes disillusioned and changes his mind on the whole purchase. Maybe it would be worth the dealer splitting the transportation charges, as a smaller bird in the hand may be worth more than a larger bird in the bush. Besides, customers shouldn't have to search out surrounding inventory, not when dealers have the tools to search more efficiently. But, that's how I think; maybe my thinking is warped. I'm just an old factory trained guy who thinks that customers still appreciate service.
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Inventory by ionosphere1
Jan 05, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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I looked at the inventory of all the dealers Mercury's website included for my Seattle zip code, which showed dealers near the coast and Canada too. Is a rare car in these parts. My dealer didn't even have a model for me to see when I went there. I had to wait a few weeks them to have one and they said it took them a few months to get it.
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Re: Inventory [ionosphere1] by paisan
Jan 05, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: ionosphere1 (Jan 05, 2008 4:10 pm)

I bet they have a ton in FLA
 
-mike
#131 of 152
New special offer by ionosphere1
Jan 08, 2008 (9:18 pm)
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As predicted, at exactly 9:00 Pm my time (midnight Michigan time), they changed the special offer deal, as they had to, as the date passed. Interestingly,they significantly decreased the interest rate for the Grand Marquis, but they did not change the dollar amount of $5,500 ;-(. Wonder why they did not increase the dollar option with it. Also strange that for the Sable, the interest rsate is a lot higher. And now the date's been changed to 3/31/2008. I still figured out that even though the interest rate is much lower, I'm still better off to take the cash reduction instead, even for 60 months.
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Check this out by ionosphere1
Jan 08, 2008 (9:32 pm)
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/editorials/ford-death-watch-40-mercury-rip/
 
If what he says is true, everyone better buy a Grand Marquis like me while you still can!!!!
 
Don't know what he's talking about though regarding questionairre and only 4 vehicles. He's wrong on both counts.
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$4 & $5/Gallon Gasoline... by hpmctorque
Mar 05, 2008 (11:31 pm)
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and the recently enacted 35 mpg by 2020 law are what will finally sink the CV/GM/TC. I'd be really surprised if production continues beyond the '09 model year. By then, there will be enough late model, low mileage used ones on the road to satisfy the ever diminishing demand. For proof, look at resale values for the '03-'07 models. Not very good, and proof that demand is declining.
 
Think about it; expensive gasoline will make these cars, rugged as they are, uneconomical for law enforcement and taxi service. For limo-type service the Taurus/Sable/(new for '09) Lincoln MKS will be better overall choices in the expensive gas era.
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Re: $4 & $5/Gallon Gasoline... [hpmctorque] by euphonium
Mar 06, 2008 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 05, 2008 11:31 pm)

expensive gas era. ??
 
That gas is expensive is no more true than it was 40 years ago when it was .35 a gallon.
If your income has not risen at least 10 times in the last 40 years, it is not the price of gas that is the problem.
 
Everything else has gone up. Why should gas be exempt from price increases?
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Re: $4 & $5/Gallon Gasoline (euphonium) by hpmctorque
Mar 06, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Well, you make a good point there, but from what I've read, oil at $103/barrel just surpassed the old record established in '81, in inflation adjusted terms. I suppose much depends on how you want to look at it, but I think record high - and rising - gas prices will prove to be a strong headwind for the old body-on-frame big Fords.
 
I don't presume to know where gas prices will top out, or whether they'll stay high, but it's a virtual given that demand from China, India, and other emerging countries will continue to support relatively high prices.

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