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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [signman1] by rusdawg
Aug 15, 2006 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: signman1 (Aug 10, 2006 4:25 am)

My Ram 1500 also broke down while traveling, 150 miles from home. I had it towed to the nearest DC dealership which refused to honor the warranty due to "lack of maintenance." They said they found sludge in the engine, and subsequently charged me $243 to tell me this.
I then had it towed to the DC dealership where I purchased the vehicle from. After 2-3 weeks, they denied the claim and gave a corporate denial number after supposedly having a corporate auditor come to take a look at the truck. They only charged me $40 to do this.
I don't understand the discrepancy in cost between the two dealerships. Also, the service associate at my dealership said that an auditor must be called and a denial number given when a claim is denied, although neither happened at the first dealership.
I've since paid to have a motor put in myself, in addition to the $400 I spent to have the truck towed back home. Any ideas as to what my next move should be?
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [rusdawg] by signman1
Aug 15, 2006 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: rusdawg (Aug 15, 2006 11:49 am)

My dealership (the good one) was able to prove with computer printout that my Sahara had been properly maintained at the correct intervals, oil changes, filters, etc. and each time the mechanic had noted any 'other' problems if they existed-so my lawyer had this printout as evidence of 'proper maintainence and no damage or abuse'.
If you hadn't been getting the services done at the right times, you may have screwed yourself...but if you can get the computer printout (and ALL dealerships will have access through your VIN number to this) and it shows proper maintanence..then you have a case like I did. Your first dealership may have screwed you for an engine flush or something to try and fix it-I got a 'tranny flush' and second dealer found NO evidence of it having been done but its not worth another lawsuit for $200....
The factory rep had put in the denial claim on the first dealership-so my dealership couldn't make the claim-that's why I got stuck. So if there wasn't one the first time, I'd be thinking lawyer time! BUT make sure he files FOR LEGAL FEES in the first lawsuit...mine forgot to and had to eat most of it...we split the fees.
If you can get a lawyer to take the case, he can contact me to get the court case docket # for proof that DC has been held accountable...they do NOT want anyone to know about this! It was in NH State Supreme Court this year...so it can be used to help in any state as far as I know!
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [signman1] by mitzij
Aug 21, 2006 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: signman1 (Aug 15, 2006 12:23 pm)

Sorry. I got confused between the 'two years later', and the fact it was a 2000 vehicle.
 
You stated:
 
"but if you can get the computer printout (and ALL dealerships will have access through your VIN number to this) and it shows proper maintenance..then you have a case like I did."
 
All dealerships do not have maintenance records. We (GM dealer) only have our in-house records and the record of warranty repairs that we can look up on the GM website. If you get your OLF done at Jiffy Lube or another dealership, we won't know about it. Every vehicle owner should keep his records,and not rely on a third party to keep track of his business.
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [mitzij] by signman1
Aug 21, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: mitzij (Aug 21, 2006 9:06 am)

I meant all JEEP dealerships have full access to all JEEP records-a service manager showed me on his computer that he had access to anything done by any JEEP shop (and on my rubicon that showed 2) but the Sahara had been maintained strictly by jeep dealerships-never an outside source!
Same thing the lawyers for DC tried to disclaim-that it had not been maintained, but was abused, damaged, etc. and their OWN witness refuted that on the stand! Worst witness they could have provided-best witness for us if we had needed one.
And yes, it is well worth hanging on to EVERY record for anything-from parts to oil changes to tire rotation.
It boiled down to a FACTORY dealer rep that did NOT want to authorize the warranty claim...for the dealership we went to first. Had I brought it to MY original dealer, they said they would have had NO problem getting it done on warranty-even though they had the same factory rep! They would have authorized it on the spot-as they had already rebuilt the rear axle twice and knew the vehicle...and maybe knew something I DIDN'T about why there was obviously a problem with water where it didn't belong on this vehicle-it had 900 miles on it when I got it 'new' from them.
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Doing your own service at the factory invervals by stat
Sep 19, 2006 (7:25 am)
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I have a question:
 
I Just bought a Toyota Yaris. brand new. I'm also someone who does their own oil changes, spark plug changes, etc. I usually perform my own 30k, 60k, 90k service intervals at home. I buy OEM parts to perform the major service intervals.
 
By doing my own oil changes, servicing would I be voiding my factory warranty?
 
How do others handle this? How do you keep records of oil changes and such? How do you prove this to the dealership should a problem arise?
 
Thanks
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Re: Doing your own service at the factory invervals [stat] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 19, 2006 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: stat (Sep 19, 2006 7:25 am)

I'd definitely keep sales receipts and definitely add your own "service sticker" to the door jamb or windshield. Anytime you work on your own car, you are exposing yourself to a "loophole" that could be used against you---not saying it would be, but case in point:
 
If your engine blows up and the dealer finds a leaky oil filter that you put on, you are toast. If he doesn't find a leak, you are probably fine, with receipts and mileage recordings.
 
Personally, just for me, I take my Scion to the dealer for oil changes. It's so cheap and then they are responsible. I might do my own spark plugs at 30K however.
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [signman1] by jessejames2
Oct 05, 2006 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: signman1 (Aug 21, 2006 9:20 am)

NO, all dealers do not have records to ALL services. We all can acess warranty repairs but every dealer is different as far as customer pay maintenance repairs. Every Dealers runs a different system, wether it be ADP, Reynolds and Reynolds. They all run off differents servers therefore we do not have access to maintenance history thats was done by a different dealer. Sounds like a bad dealer up there but I have doubts on your credibility after your angry post and your assumption that we all know.
 
To all the other warranty admins out their, i have been thinking about making a website and message boards specifically for us, to help each other out, let me know what you think and if you all would be interested.
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [jessejames2] by mitzij
Oct 05, 2006 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: jessejames2 (Oct 05, 2006 11:44 am)

The forum is a good idea!
If you are a GM guy, there is a forum attached to ServiceGM.com. Sign in there. There is a ton of good information, as well as a section for warranty admins.
It's mostly technician-driven, but has been very helpful to me as a SA/warranty clerk.
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [mitzij] by jessejames2
Oct 05, 2006 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: mitzij (Oct 05, 2006 12:53 pm)

well i do chrysler but we also have a GM store, so i figured i would set it up for all administrators, each with their own section
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Re: Daimler Chrysler loses in Supreme Court on warranty! [jessejames2] by signman1
Oct 06, 2006 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: jessejames2 (Oct 05, 2006 11:44 am)

It was the Service Department Manager that TOLD me that he had access like all JEEP dealers to the 'master' computer records of all work done by a dealer on the jeep-and the first thing that popped up was the REFUSED WARRANTY claim posted by the local stealership less than 2 days earlier, after I had paid to get the jeep TOWED down to them. Also, so much for the 'road service warranty'....no go with THEM for the towing!
I didn't make this up-this is exactly what I was told AND he showed me on his computer screen- and it showed the service work I had done at another dealership when I was trying to find a local dealer to handle routine maintenance instead of driving an hour away.
This second dealership had a supposedly FACTORY TRAINED MECHANIC run my poor rubicon up on a lift-with the hood flipped open-and promptly FOLDED THE HOOD RIGHT OVER THE WINDSHIELD FRAME...........
and you thing I don't have a reason to be angry at some dealerships?????
How about the dealership mechanic that put on differential rock guards for me-used the WRONG SIZE BOLTS and never checked to see if they were seated-and I had all the fluid running down the road?

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