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#91 of 223 Re: My Experiences to Date in Accord Hybrid [lotsacars] by alant1 Feb 21, 2005 (9:46 pm)
Replying to: lotsacars (Jan 29, 2005 5:04 am) Thanks for the plus/minus list and overview of mileage issue. I test drove the Hybrid and found somewhat, although not tremendously more power than my 2002 Accord V6. Basically, the difference must be the 16 hp electric motor assist, which also appears to smooth the otherwise jerky Accord auto transmission during rapid acceleration. It drives real nice compared to the Toyota hybrid that I drove a year ago. The 16hp electric motor is too small. I'd like to see more electrical power, and less dependence upon the V6 during in town driving. The cylinder use reduction on the freeway is a great idea, but imagine the fuel savings if a beefier electric motor were activated on the freeway? One minus not included is the smaller trunk space, due to the battery. 10cf is not a large roomy luggage space even for two people. I also was annoyed at the lack of "luxury features" such as a self-dimming rear view mirror. The options in audio were also limited. Why can't I plug in my iPod and trash the 6CD changer? The huge MP3 player Honda offers is no substitute for the portability and quality of my iPod. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Feb 22, 2005 4:00 pm) electrictroy (Feb 23, 2005 12:16 pm)
#92 of 223 Re: My Experiences to Date in Accord Hybrid [alant1] by explorerx4 Feb 22, 2005 (4:00 pm)
Replying to: alant1 (Feb 21, 2005 9:46 pm) how much profit did honda make on your ipod?
#93 of 223 Re: Clarification on my thoughts. [xcel] by williams3 Feb 22, 2005 (5:13 pm)
Replying to: xcel (Feb 12, 2005 9:03 am) It wasn't in the Bluewater article and I can't quote where I heard this but another factor dealing with hybrids and EPA estimate differences deals with the regenerative braking on hybrids. Since the EPA uses a dyno on the driven wheels (front), the full effect of regenerative braking is utilized. However, in realworld driving, some braking is done by the rear wheels so the regenerative gain is less than on a dyno. Hence, the City mode where regenerative braking is much more prevalent, will yield bigger discrepancies than Highway mode, as noted previously. But, to reiterate a point made before, this is not deception by the automaker but rather a fault in the EPA test simulation.
#94 of 223 Re: My Experiences to Date in Accord Hybrid [alant1] by electrictroy Feb 23, 2005 (12:16 pm)
Replying to: alant1 (Feb 21, 2005 9:46 pm) Because the 16hp motor spins around the driveshaft, there's a limit to how large it can be. You don't want to waste energy spinning a large weight. Also, remember that "tiny" motor is generating ~30 foot-pounds at idle, when the engine is barely making 15. So Most of your stop-n-go city acceleration comes from the Electric. The electric motor is tiny in size, NOT torque. troy
#95 of 223 Re: My Experiences to Date in Accord Hybrid [lotsacars] by kurtamaxxguy Feb 25, 2005 (3:12 pm)
Replying to: lotsacars (Jan 29, 2005 5:04 am) Ahhhhh...some real feedback on the HAH. Thanks, lotsacars! Will be interesting to see how the mileage changes as the vehicle breaks in. Though is it true that folks here would rather take advantage of the extra horsepower rather than the MPH?
#96 of 223 TOP RATED by kurtamaxxguy Mar 03, 2005 (5:07 pm)
The leading consumers magazine (CU) in their april auto issue has apparently classifed the HAC as the top rated car in the family sedan class, and surpassed the other Accords. Will Honda Dealers now apply even bigger MVA (market value adjustments) as a result? Replies to this message: gagrice (Mar 03, 2005 5:32 pm)
#97 of 223 Re: TOP RATED [kurtamaxxguy] by gagrice Mar 03, 2005 (5:32 pm)
Replying to: kurtamaxxguy (Mar 03, 2005 5:07 pm) Will Honda Dealers now apply even bigger MVA (market value adjustments) as a result? They are starting out with real poor sales figures. It may be the $3000 some dealers are tacking on to the already high MSRP. Some posters are seeing them below MSRP. If you want one shop around. It would be best to get on the Auto trader and see if any are listed below MSRP. It may be a short flight away.
#98 of 223 $2000 below MSRP in Houston EOM by midnightcowboy Mar 03, 2005 (8:34 pm)

#99 of 223 AH’s selling for similar discounts as the non-Hybrid Accord’s … by xcel Mar 04, 2005 (6:18 pm)
Hi All: Now that the AH is available for $1,000 under invoice, it is at least in the ball park but a $3K premium over the non-Hybrid is still excessive imho. Grand Honda - Chicago: 05 Accord Hybrid (non-NAVI): $26,895 Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes Replies to this message: gagrice (Mar 04, 2005 11:01 pm) railroadjames (Mar 05, 2005 10:41 am) explorerx4 (Mar 05, 2005 6:11 pm) and 16 more... backy (Mar 05, 2005 10:06 am) xcel (Mar 05, 2005 4:05 pm) backy (Mar 05, 2005 7:58 pm) and 4 more...
#100 of 223 Re: AH’s selling for similar discounts as the non-Hybrid Accord’s … [xcel] by gagrice Mar 04, 2005 (11:01 pm)
Replying to: xcel (Mar 04, 2005 6:18 pm) Now that the AH is available for $1,000 under invoice The credit has to go to the car buying public. They would not allow Honda to rob them. It further proves that a car has to be able to make economical sense for the mainstream public to buy them. In the case of the Prius there are still some DeCaprio wannabes willing to pay a premium. Even the Prius is losing some of that over priced glitter. Replies to this message: railroadjames (Mar 05, 2005 10:41 am) explorerx4 (Mar 05, 2005 6:11 pm) railroadjames (Mar 05, 2005 8:50 pm) and 15 more...