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#214 of 223 Re: PZEV Vs. Regular Accords [joon]
by electrictroy
Apr 20, 2005 (6:56 am)
Where are you guys getting the "sulev/pzev" rating? Even in California, the Accord Hybrid is only a ULEV.
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The reason the Civic Hybrid lost MPG when adjusted to Sulev/Pzev standards is due to the lean-burn. Lean-burn produces a lot of NOx... too much to pass... so the California CH had to limit lean-burn to near-zero usage... which of course impacted MPG.
The Accord Hybrid doesn't use lean-burn, so Honda might be able to clean it up w/o impacting the MPG.
troy
#216 of 223 Re: Re sunroofs and interior space [backy]
by blane
Apr 22, 2005 (1:06 pm)
backy:
That seems reasonable. Two inches less headroom, multipied by the square footage area of the interior roof, could equate to the sunroof taking up about five cubic feet. That way, if they continue to sell the HAH without a sunroof, Honda could lower the entire roof by two inches, thus reducing air drag and the coefficient of friction. Just think of the exponential increase in fuel mileage with less frontal area.
#217 of 223 Re: Re sunroofs and interior space [blane]
by electrictroy
Apr 26, 2005 (9:26 am)
I still don't understand? The sunroof in my old Dodge was flush-mounted. It didn't take up any interior space. Why can't Honda use the same design?
troy
Apr 26, 2005 (4:01 pm)
It was only a weight issue that is all.They had to cut weight b/c they were adding weight with batteries,motor,generator,etc,etc.
#219 of 223 Re: Re sunroofs and interior space [electrictroy]
by backy
Apr 26, 2005 (4:08 pm)
Flush mounted as in the glass roof raises up over the car body as it opens? Exposing the glass roof to all sorts of flying debris, stress from wind shear etc.? I prefer the kind that retracts into the car body, as on the Accord--it takes headroom but seems more reliable over the long term.
Sep 29, 2005 (9:01 am)
Is the HAH worth it? My answer is yes.
#222 of 223 Re: A new type of Hybrid [larsb]
by clevi
Feb 05, 2006 (12:13 pm)
Unfortuanately you dont get this kind of mileage in the real world
24MPG is typical for suurban driving.
#223 of 223 Is the HAH worth the price?
by thegraduate
Feb 07, 2006 (7:12 pm)
If you want a high-performance sedan that delivers the economy of a large 4-cyl in real-world (say 25-30 mpg), then heck yes! Where else can you get a car with the performance of 250+ hp with all the amenities you need (power and leather everything, Auto CC, 6-disc changer, etc...) for $30-32k?