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Re: guess it's a perspective thing... [explorerx4] by backy
Jan 19, 2005 (6:21 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 19, 2005 6:13 pm)

And a Kia Rio is WAY cheaper, pollutes slightly more, and has four tires just like the HAH. (No wait, the Rio has five tires!)
 
I can see the comparison to the V6 Accord and Prius, but comparing the HAH to a Focus is a big stretch IMO.
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Re: guess it's a perspective thing... [backy] by explorerx4
Jan 19, 2005 (6:26 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jan 19, 2005 6:21 pm)

focus 'pzev' rating. c&d 0-60 in focus wagon 7.5 seconds. also has power moonroof, heated seats/mirrors, more. don't forget the 'way cheaper'
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Re: guess it's a perspective thing... [explorerx4] by backy
Jan 19, 2005 (6:54 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 19, 2005 6:26 pm)

C'mon, the Focus sedan (since the HAH is a sedan) is a compact, with not nearly the interior room of the Accord--nor its smoothness or quality. If a Focus meets your needs, sure, save $15k and get a Focus (get two!), but it's nowhere close to being in the same league as the HAH.
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Re: [electrictroy] by dewey
Jan 19, 2005 (7:35 pm)

Replying to: electrictroy (Jan 19, 2005 11:26 am)

Which is why I computed $3.00 a gallon... about 1 dollar higher than the current average.
 
Gas prices for me are in Litres not gallons( I live in Canada).
Since you added $1.00 per gallon--these estimates can be considered quite good---in other words it is not worth buying HAH for gas savings.
 
BUT it is worth buying the HAH if you want performance plus gas savings.
 
The comparison of a HAH and a Focus is an interesting! I think a Mini Cooper S is far more exciting to drive that the HAH and a pretty good gas saver. Also quality/interior finish can be considered better than the Accord.
 
No wonder the MINI remains so popular after all these years!
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by dewey
Jan 19, 2005 (8:13 pm)
Regarding my last post I realize it is unfair to compare a compact with a family sedan!
 
BUT what I am focusing on is a vehicle as a package that combines performance and gas savings.
 
I live at midtown Toronto and parking is HELL, so a small fuel efficient rocket sounds great for my needs(unfortunately not so practical for my kids needs--this is why I do not have one)
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Re: HAH a great car for the Yuppie [gagrice] by gfedchak
Jan 20, 2005 (2:32 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jan 18, 2005 6:12 pm)

I would have to agree, after reading over all the posts on hybrids on all the forums, that, indeed, no hybrid, least of all the 30K+ HAH, is worth the money.
 
Perhaps they will be when gas hits $3.00 a gallon.
 
That doesn't mean that lots of people shouldn't buy the HAH right now, but it's not a car that people who are concerned with money should even look at, for all the reasons stated over and over again on this and other hybrid forums.
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Re: guess it's a perspective thing... [explorerx4] by robertsmx
Jan 20, 2005 (6:23 am)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 19, 2005 6:26 pm)

With Focus as opposed to Accord Hybrid, you get what you pay for. I cannot imagine buying a Focus over *any* Accord (much less the Hybrid) unless I were cash strapped.
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Re: [dewey] by robertsmx
Jan 20, 2005 (6:23 am)

Replying to: dewey (Jan 19, 2005 7:35 pm)

BUT it is worth buying the HAH if you want performance plus gas savings.
 
Yep!
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Re: [dewey] by backy
Jan 20, 2005 (6:48 am)

Replying to: dewey (Jan 19, 2005 8:13 pm)

Regarding my last post I realize it is unfair to compare a compact with a family sedan!
 
Actually, I think the Mini Cooper is a sub-compact, but I accept your rationale.
 
However, if I were looking for a good blend of performance and gas savings, it wouldn't be the Mini Cooper. My pick would be the Mazda3i, which has good performance (esp. with 5-speed), great handling, room for 4 real adults (5 in a pinch), the highest fuel economy ever measured for an ICE car by CR, and costs thousands less than a Mini Cooper. But it's a compact sedan, not in the same league as the HAH.
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by electrictroy
Jan 20, 2005 (9:06 am)
"Financially, it would make more sense to not own a car and either bike/walk or start using public transportation, if possible."
 
- The bus/train/bus trip from home-to-work is 3 hours and ~$40 a day.
- I can't bike/walk 70 miles.
- And I can't afford the 1 million dollar homes that are within bike/walk distance of my job.
 
It's easy for you liberals to sit there & say, "trash your car/use other transport" but not everyone has that luxury. (yes a million-dollar home within biking distance is a luxury)
 
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FUEL SAVINGS OF ACCORD HYBRID vs. A 30mpg CAR ($3.00 a gallon)
100,000 miles = $1200
200,000 miles = $2400
300,000 miles = $3600 (engine dies; no battery replacement)
  
IMHO, a $25,000 non-hybrid luxury car that still gets 30 mpg makes more sense financially.
 
troy

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