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#194 of 223 Seeking trunk space advice
Apr 08, 2005 (6:56 pm)
This is my first post in Edmunds, so please forgive me if this has been discussed before. We are also very interested in the Accord Hybrid. We test drove it last weekend and liked it very much.
The one thing that is of concern to us is the loss of trunk space (approx.1/3 less than the regular Accord). Would anyone be able to tell me if the smaller trunk space is a significant inconvenience? I mean, can you still fit lugage, groceries, etc. You know, the normal family chores that you use your car for? What about tires? I'm thinking change-overs: how will we get four tires in the car for winter/summer (& vice versa) tires change overs.
If anyone can give us a little insight or your views, that'll be most helpful in our decision in purchasing this car (or get a regular Accord. Although we really want to get the Hybrid after experiencing the extra torque).
Thanks in advance.
#195 of 223 Re: Seeking trunk space advice [porcoroso]
Apr 08, 2005 (7:25 pm)
how will we get four tires in the car for winter/summer (& vice versa) tires change overs.
Welcome to the Forum,
I would think that 4 tires would be tough to get in the trunk of a standard Accord. I would not want to put them in the back seat on that nice leather. best bet is throw them in the back of your PU truck and take them to the tire shop... dirty tires in a nice new trunk, yuck.
#196 of 223 Re: Seeking trunk space advice [gagrice]
Apr 10, 2005 (3:08 pm)
Unfortunately, I don't have a PU, so that option is out for me. Guess I'll need to go back and check it out again. I was hoping someone that has the hybrid can share more information on the cargo capacity. I need to seriously consider this limitation before deciding on purchasing it since it'll be used as a family car.
#197 of 223 Re: Seeking trunk space advice [porcoroso]
Apr 10, 2005 (6:27 pm)
Is this really a big deal? This is something you do twice a year. Get a couple of big plastic bags, slip two of the tires in them, and set them in the floor of the back seat. There are lots of cars that can't hold four full-sized tires in the trunk. It should not be a deal-killer if you really want the car.
#198 of 223 Re: Seeking trunk space advice [backy]
Apr 10, 2005 (7:02 pm)
Get a couple of big plastic bags, slip two of the tires in them, and set them in the floor of the back seat.
Good idea, why didn't I think of that. I have had a truck for the last 30 years and never had to haul tires in a car.
#203 of 223 Re: Just reading....that's all....... [larsb]
Apr 13, 2005 (9:30 am)
"The climate control system utilizes a unique hybrid compressor that is both highly efficient and effective.."
That is a Marketing Blurb, not an Engineering Blurb, so they mean "Unique" in the Marketing sense. I'm sure it is uinque. It probably has a bolt hole in a different location.
"Prius does something similar but not in the same way.....Honda's technology is two years newer...."
I see nothing in what you've posted so far that supports either of those statements.
As far as I know the ONLY Electronic Scroll Compressor for Hybrid Auto A/C systems is the DENSO unit that was jointly developed with Toyota. It was developed specifically for use in hybrids, and has a couple of unique features. It integrates the Electronic Inverter Unit into the Compressor Unit (This was apparently a cooling challenge), and uses very little Coolant relative to older systems.
You can find a number of presentations floating around the web, but I'm not sure I can link to them from here. The linking rules here puzzle me.
But, they are almost all done by Ken Matsunaga (Denso) or Kiwamu Inui (Toyota) , and involve analysis of the energy savings over regular belt driven compressors. Bottom line is the Electronic Compressors are about 40% more efficient than older ones.
Honda is not nearly as rich as Toyota, and I seriously doubt they did anything like that in-house. If any other A/C company had anything comparable you can be sure they'd be presenting it and trumpeting it to high heaven, and that hasn't happened.
Denso/Toyota won an EPA Climate Protection Award for the design.
I'd love to see info on the Honda Unit, but dollars to donuts it's the Denso Unit.
It would be kind of funny if Honda was paying royalties to Toyota for the A/C.