Honda Accord Hybrid - worth the extra $$$? - READ ONLY

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#167 of 223 Re: Carried over from another forum.... [larsb] by kernick Mar 19, 2005 (6:00 am)
Replying to: larsb (Mar 18, 2005 10:18 am) you: 7) the emotional boost of knowing you are helping the environment. me: you aren't "helping" the environment in any way when you buy a vehicle and run it. There are other cars and modes of transportation which are just as clean and efficient. And tell the environment to stop polluting the environment - that Mt. St. Helens and its relatives make a bit of air pollution, and all those lightning strikes which cause forest fires that burn millions of acres every year. You're worried about tiny little cars, and our impact on the environment, when you should be worried about the environment killing us off - Yellowstone supervolcano. I think hybrids will sell to the mainstream buyer when you can get any premium back in gas savings in 2-3 years of usage. Right now I'd say I'd pay $1500 extra for a hybrid over a non-hybrid. And I don't want it to be on a $30K car. A 1.8S Sentra auto sells for $11K around here. Sell a hybrid Sentra for $12.5K and I'd try it. Or a hybrid Focus, or Neon.
#168 of 223 hybrid v. luxury car thinking - human nature in microcosm? by nowakj66 Mar 19, 2005 (7:02 am)
I think it is funny that if you tell most people you want to buy an Acura TL instead of a Honda Accord it is almost universally and instantly understood that having a slightly more exclusive car is probably worth the premium. But try to explain you want an Accord Hybrid instead of an Accord V6 and people whip out their mental spreadsheet and start tallying savings. Maybe because the cars are so similar (hybrid v non-hybrid accord). I also think in this culture it is easier to explain spending more to one up others on luxury than compete in the arena of perceived enviro-friendliness. Whether the hybrid really is more or less enviro friendly we could debate all day. My point is social posturing via conspicuous consumption is more readily understood than posturing via having the perceived greenest or most enviromentally friendly car. It tells you something about ourselves. I agree that if the pay back on a hybrid is quick, you will get more takers. It is always easier to appeal to enlightened self interest rather than an appeal to advancing the common good. Just the way we are wired or socialized, I guess. Replies to this message: midnightcowboy (Mar 30, 2005 12:28 pm) blane (Mar 30, 2005 6:00 pm) explorerx4 (Mar 30, 2005 6:11 pm) electrictroy (Apr 01, 2005 7:01 am)
#169 of 223 Re: HAH nice car Not worth the Premium! [backy] by newdaddyof2 Mar 30, 2005 (7:17 am)
Replying to: backy (Mar 17, 2005 11:16 am) The Accord Hybrid sells for $36,990,... Where? Canada
#170 of 223 More Positives of the HAH by newdaddyof2 Mar 30, 2005 (7:22 am)
Don't forget the tax savings from the IRS. $2,000.00 a year deduction. Replies to this message: nowakj66 (Mar 30, 2005 9:57 am)
#171 of 223 Re: More Positives of the HAH [newdaddyof2] by nowakj66 Mar 30, 2005 (9:57 am)
Replying to: newdaddyof2 (Mar 30, 2005 7:22 am) I think it is a one time $2000 deduction from income (not every year). If your marginal federal rate is 28%, that is worth $560 to you. A nice bonus but not enough to push you one way or another in many instances.
#172 of 223 Re: hybrid v. luxury car thinking - human nature in microcosm? [nowakj66] by midnightcowboy Mar 30, 2005 (12:28 pm)
Replying to: nowakj66 (Mar 19, 2005 7:02 am) Didn't think the TL premium was worth it so bought 6-speed Accord Coupe instead. By the same token, I do not think the Hybrid premium is worth it. Replies to this message: blane (Mar 30, 2005 6:00 pm) explorerx4 (Mar 30, 2005 6:11 pm)
#174 of 223 Re: hybrid v. luxury car thinking - human nature in microcosm? [midnightcowboy] by blane Mar 30, 2005 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Mar 30, 2005 12:28 pm) Aw common MidCow. With all of your comments about Borla exhausts and 6-speed sticks, you know that you wouldn't have considered the Honda Accord Hybrid. It's a 4-door sedan with a slushbox. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Mar 30, 2005 6:11 pm)
#175 of 223 Re: hybrid v. luxury car thinking - human nature in microcosm? [blane] by explorerx4 Mar 30, 2005 (6:11 pm)
Replying to: blane (Mar 30, 2005 6:00 pm) yeah mid... even flowmasters wouldn't help when running in electric mode.
#176 of 223 Off topic, but will post one on topic (promise!). by mevande Mar 30, 2005 (8:52 pm)
Hello all, I have a "gas guzzler", 1999 BMW 740i that is paid for.. mostly..80% by company I used to work for. I wonder how many miles I would have to drive with my car (300HP V8) to justify the purchase of anything "new". I do want to help the environment. I think the Honda Hybrid is a great car (drove one). Auto manufacturers and research in general needs to do a much better jog re: alternative fuel sources (Hydrogen?). We have not invested wisely as a nation for gas has been relatively cheap for a long time. Now we (rightly so) are seeing emotions that spurred the emergence of the small car "fad" back when we had our last gas crisis. We need to get going and get American "know how" moving on vehicles we would "love" to drive that run on alternative fuels. My 3 cents:)