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#145 of 223 Re: premium for a hybrid [kurtamaxxguy] by backy Mar 09, 2005 (3:46 pm)
Replying to: kurtamaxxguy (Mar 09, 2005 1:37 pm) In other words, you wish to get something--more power--for nothing. I agree that would be a great thing. I wish life would work that way more often. BTW, your statement about hybrid battery packs is not true in general. It MAY be true for the HAH, I don't know, but it is not true for the Prius. Its individual battery cells can be replaced. Replies to this message: kurtamaxxguy (Mar 09, 2005 9:39 pm)
#146 of 223 Re: YRS OF HONDAS (BOTH BIKES & CARS) [railroadjames] by explorerx4 Mar 09, 2005 (5:31 pm)
Replying to: railroadjames (Mar 09, 2005 9:44 am) loved those 12 inch rims on the 600, made me feel like i was pimpin' with the 26 inchers on my schwinn. one of the factors that makes a difference when deciding to buy a hah, prius, other, or non hybrid, is the number of miles you drive. if you don't drive much, it becomes more difficult to justify the cost of hybrids, if you think in terms of saving money. Replies to this message: railroadjames (Mar 09, 2005 8:32 pm) stevedebi (Mar 10, 2005 12:40 pm)
#147 of 223 ) [explorerx4]MILAGE IS A DECIDING FACTOR by railroadjames Mar 09, 2005 (8:32 pm)
Replying to: explorerx4 (Mar 09, 2005 5:31 pm) I agree that higher milage (say 14 & up) is a factor when considering a hybrid. I was surprised to find myself wanting to drive everywhere ('cause it's fun). I put more miles than expected (16K) this year. The Accord Hybrid is still on my list of a 2nd test drive if the local dealer will agree to it. I WILL feel funny pulling into their lot with my Prius though. Don't ya think? Culliganman(Ya think a Hummer could ever be a hybrid?) Replies to this message: stevedebi (Mar 10, 2005 12:40 pm)
#148 of 223 Re: premium for a hybrid [backy] by kurtamaxxguy Mar 09, 2005 (9:39 pm)
Replying to: backy (Mar 09, 2005 3:46 pm) Glad to hear at least Toyota has designed the battery pack for individual cel replacement! That makes a series hookup much more bearable. And yes, you have a point about the extra power. How much that is worth is something I would have to think on.
#149 of 223 premium for a hybrid by russ5 Mar 10, 2005 (9:25 am)
Why worry about the battery. It has an 8 year 80,000 mile warranty. If you can afford an HAH you probably would trade before the warranty expired!! Replies to this message: midnightcowboy (Mar 10, 2005 1:00 pm)
#150 of 223 Re: ) [explorerx4]MILAGE IS A DECIDING FACTOR [railroadjames] by stevedebi Mar 10, 2005 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: railroadjames (Mar 09, 2005 8:32 pm) "Culliganman(Ya think a Hummer could ever be a hybrid?)" Funny you should mention this; the military is developing a tactical vehicle of H1 size that is a parallel hybrid - useful in recon roles where the engine can be turned off for a while.
#151 of 223 Re: premium for a hybrid [russ5] by midnightcowboy Mar 10, 2005 (1:00 pm)
Replying to: russ5 (Mar 10, 2005 9:25 am) There has already been a lot of discussion on battery life so I won't try to belabor it too much. Yes, the Prius battery is modular and so only certain modules may have to be replaced. The HAH has individual cells,will also probably not have to have the whole battery (all 144 cells replaced during a failure. The high numbers $3,000-$5,000 appear to be just speculation of worst case at this point in time. There just ins't enough historical data on battery life. These high figures appear to be only FUD(Fear Uncertainty Doubt) and assume that not only will the batteries completely fail but all the associated electronics also; very unlikely! The other thing selling before the 8 year 80,000 mile warranty is up, will just pass potential problems on to the next car owner. H'mm you think that might affect resale value ??? BTW I just bought a 7th generation Accord 6-speed, not the HAH and Honda quality and engineering is really impressive. I also have two Honda mowers: one riding and one propelled and just bought a power washer with a Honda motor. I won't buy another yard power tool ever that isn't either Honda or Husqvarna. There is a difference in quality! Alos I will probably always puchase Acura/Honda or Toyota/Lexus cars. However, after the way the Toyota car dealers treated me on the Prius it will probably only be Acura/Honda. Anyway, the next car purchase is now a long long ways off. Cheers, MidCow the Manual Shift Man
#152 of 223 resale value by grove4 Mar 10, 2005 (6:37 pm)
The resale is enough to scare me to wait until hybrid technology in general levels off.There are to many what ifs right now fo me to hand over 30grand.Who knows,We are at the very begining of something new right now.In 5 years we could have hybrids that blow away the HAH of today.Or hydrogen technology.Look at BMW.And what about those batteries in 8 years?I wouldnt by a 1997 accord now that needed 3k worth of repairs.I think in 4 years or so we will have a better idea how things would pan out.If I had the money resale wouldnt bother me.But I guess If I had more money I wouldnt be looking at a accord.Nor would I care so much about gas mileage. Replies to this message: railroadjames (Mar 15, 2005 8:37 pm)
#153 of 223 HAH is for Munchkins by meyervilla Mar 15, 2005 (5:11 pm)
Honda builds great vehicles. My wife and I stopped at the Honda shop to try out the HAH after reading all of the glowing reviews. We were ready to buy. Too bad! Unfortunately the HAH is like all Honda vehicles - designed for munchkin-size people. Replies to this message: gagrice (Mar 15, 2005 6:34 pm) backy (Mar 16, 2005 5:05 am)
#154 of 223 Re: HAH is for Munchkins [meyervilla] by gagrice Mar 15, 2005 (6:34 pm)
Replying to: meyervilla (Mar 15, 2005 5:11 pm) designed for munchkin-size people. That was my impression. I had not sat in an Accord for years. I am only 6'1" and my head touched the headliner on the HAH. It feels real cramped for the size they claim it to be. I sit in a New VW Beetle and it has 4 inches over my head. I guess they build them for smaller people. Replies to this message: backy (Mar 16, 2005 5:05 am)