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Re: C&D Review - 1 Down, 2 to Go [rorr] by seanwms6
Sep 26, 2006 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 26, 2006 9:20 am)

Somebody was able to dig up the C&D "Everyday Heroes" chart for me. Here are some numbers to compare vs. the MS6, including 5-60 "street start":
 
5-60 = 6.9 for the MS6 vs. 6.7 for the MS3;
30-50 top gear = 12.1 vs. 10.6;
50-70 top gear = 7.5 vs. 6.8.
Boy, those top gear numbers really shows what 400lbs will do. Amazing that the MS6 is ahead on the 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile. Maybe AWD really makes the difference even well after launch.
 
Whoa! Interior sound at idle is 38 dBA for the MS6 vs. 47 for the MS3! I guess that those people who want more sound than the MS6 do not need to worry. Much closer sound levels for full throttle and 70mph cruising.
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Re: C&D Review - 1 Down, 2 to Go [seanwms6] by rorr
Sep 26, 2006 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 26, 2006 10:58 am)

I had another thought over lunch (I usually have at least 1 thought per day ):
 
When comparing the various rolling start times (5-60), we need to remember that the Speed3 requires a 2nd-3rd manual upshift while some of some of it's competition can hit 60 in 2nd gear (GTI?). And the GTI (from most of the comparison tests) has a DSG which is really REALLY fast to upshift.
 
Of course, this is moot when comparing the Speed3 and Speed6 since they have identical transmissions/gearing.
 
Re: the "Everyday Heros" test. Not surprised on the top gear acceleration numbers. Kinda surprised they were that close on the 5-60 run; figured the weight delta would have shown up more there as well.
 
Re: interior sound. I don't care that much about sound at idle (besides, isn't 47 still pretty quiet?). And so long as it makes the RIGHT sounds at Speed, I'm a happy camper.
 
I wonder what the db readings are for the two cars at their top speeds?
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Re: C&D Review - 1 Down, 2 to Go [rorr] by seanwms6
Sep 26, 2006 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 26, 2006 11:37 am)

Apparently the Nov MT is out with a MS3/WRX comparo. Anybody seen that one? I don't see anything about it at the MT site.
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MT Review - 2 Down, 1 to Go [seanwms6] by seanwms6
Sep 27, 2006 (1:25 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 26, 2006 3:01 pm)

Yeah, baby! MS3 takes it overall in a smackdown with the WRX. Actually, it's very close. They like the WRX better as autocrosser and the MS3 as better on the track, and as a really nice all-arounder that's more of a blast to drive. I can't tell you where it is without incurring the wrath of the mods, but you might do a little google search on other Mazda3 forums for "Mazdaspeed 3 vs WRX".
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Re: MT Review - 2 Down, 1 to Go [seanwms6] by rorr
Sep 27, 2006 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 27, 2006 1:25 am)

Thanks for the headsup. I'm not surprised the WRX would be preferred in autocross (lower speeds, tighter course would favor AWD).
 
I wonder what other forum you're referring too....
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S-Plan by aviboy97
Sep 28, 2006 (7:43 am)
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Just to let all potential buyers who are eligible for the S-Plan, Mazda just announced there will be no S-Plan or E-Plan offered for the Mazdaspeed3.
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Re: S-Plan [aviboy97] by seanwms6
Sep 28, 2006 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 28, 2006 7:43 am)

 
Thanks, so much. I'm so happy for you. I think I should get it anyway, since all the *&^%&^ing equity is gone on my MS6.
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Re: S-Plan [seanwms6] by seanwms6
Sep 28, 2006 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 28, 2006 9:49 am)

"Just to let all potential buyers who are eligible for the S-Plan, Mazda just announced there will be no S-Plan or E-Plan offered for the Mazdaspeed3." (per Aviboy)
 
This may be too broad a statement. Others are saying they have been told no S-Plan just on the first batch, but yes S-Plan on orders for delivery at the end of the year, and still others have been told not until Spring.
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Re: S-Plan [seanwms6] by aviboy97
Sep 29, 2006 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 28, 2006 6:44 pm)

This may be too broad a statement. Others are saying they have been told no S-Plan just on the first batch, but yes S-Plan on orders for delivery at the end of the year, and still others have been told not until Spring
 
Not a broad statement. Mazda sent a notice to dealers on Thursday that no S-Plan price will be printed on invoices, and Mazda North American Operations will not offer S-Plan or E-Plan pricing for the 2007 Mazdaspeed3
 
Dealers have nothing to do with this.
 
If a dealer chooses to discount the vehicle, or sell it to you at invoice, then can, but, walking into a dealer with an S-Plan PIN will do nothing for you, Mazda North American Operations will not accept it.
 
All information potential customers were given prior to 9/28/06 about S-Plan or E-Plan has changed.
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Mazdaspeed3 Vs Subaru WRX by aviboy97
Sep 29, 2006 (9:51 am)
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Anyone read the most recent issue of M/T? Great write up.
 
To sum it up, the Mazdaspeed3 handling was superior to the WRX, even though the Mazdaspeed3 is at a AWD Vs. FWD disadvantage.
 
The only category that the WRX is better in was 0-60, because of the AWD and locking diff. After 60, the Mazdaspeed3 smokes the WRX.

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