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Replying to: ambull (Sep 09, 2006 12:01 pm) Oh, I dunno. My current car still runs like a top and is paid off. The 'sensible' thing to do would be to keep driving it into the dirt; especially since the trade-in/resale value isn't likely to fall much further over the next year or so. Who knows, maybe Mazda would release the Kabura at about the time I 'need' a new car....... 
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Comparing the 2007 Mazdaspeed3 against the Subaru WRX, Golf GTI 5 door HB, Acura RSX type S, I must retract my earlier statement and say the Mazdaspeed3 appears to be an amazing deal. Most of these vehicles cost thousands more but don't come close to the power of the speed3. On the other hand, the RSX-S is much lighter weighing about 300 pounds under the speed3 or the WRX! Not surprisingly, the WRX and speed3 are rated among the thirstiest of the group. For a cutting article on the speed3 see: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18339&vf=15
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 11, 2006 1:31 pm) 
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Replying to: daniel99 (Sep 11, 2006 3:33 pm)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 11, 2006 6:09 pm) Also, this seems to be the first review where the test conditions were not controlled by Mazda. I would have thought Japanese reviews would have been readily available by now and translated. I would like some confirmation, one way or the other, from the big US mags as well.
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 11, 2006 6:09 pm) Where did you see the Opel reference?
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 12, 2006 8:07 am) |
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Replying to: daniel99 (Sep 12, 2006 4:29 am) True enough. My point is that the intrusiveness of the power management is very subjective. And yet this appears to be the sole basis on which they dismiss the MPS3. They couldn't deny the objective performance characteristics, yet they say they couldn't wait to be done with it. To me, this smacks of bias. Almost as if somebody at Mazda's marketing dissed them and this was payback. Of course, I have no idea if they were truly biased or not. But it's a lot like the Motor Trend (?) review of the MS6 where the numbers show the MS6 to be 1 or 2 in the comparo and then they dismiss and put it in 4th/5th because they didn't like the interior. Very subjective and to taken with a grain of salt.
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 12, 2006 10:04 am) Ahhh, I remember that article, and the fiery debate in the MS6 thread. M/T also said the TSX and Accord V6 sedan handled better then the MS6, and the Jetta GLI came in first?. I'm wondering if they even drove the MS6! |
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 11, 2006 6:09 pm) The article did not seem biased to me. Unlike some other authors it sounded like this reviewer actually drove the cars and did not just quote back manufacturers marketing messages. In comparing "hot" "red-blooded hatches" Bill McKinnon may have become more passionate (rather than dispassionate) and emphasized certain aspects to illustrate the differences between otherwise excellent vehicles. Several people here have been wondering what would happen if an extra 100 horses gets plunked into the Mazda3. Would there be torque steer? Would AWD be necessary? Would the fuel economy of the regular hatch be blown sky high? Would the price be astronomic? A review like this shows that Mazda and the other manufacturers listed were successful to varying degrees addressing these issues. Personally, I still think the Mazdaspeed3 is impressive but now I have something to check out in the test drive. Bring on the reviews! Bring on the test drives!
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