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Re: Alternate Realities [seanwms6] by rorr
Sep 08, 2006 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 08, 2006 12:46 pm)

"...(or a 45 year-old with 2 kids)..."
 
Damn! You got so close to nailing me it's scary.
 
Yeah, the girls really DON'T like climbing in and out of the back seat of my Celica so school dropoffs are a real PITA. I need to convince my wife that I need a more 'sensible'( ) car before we finish paying off the Ody.
 
What's cool is that an '07 Speed3 would actually be CHEAPER than my '00 GTS.....
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Re: Alternate Realities [rorr] by ambull
Sep 09, 2006 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 08, 2006 1:49 pm)

Well, it sounds like you should have an easy time convincing her then. I don't see how it would be cheaper, but if it is, GO FOR IT!!
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Re: Alternate Realities [ambull] by rorr
Sep 11, 2006 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: ambull (Sep 09, 2006 12:01 pm)

"Well, it sounds like you should have an easy time convincing her then."
 
Oh, I dunno. My current car still runs like a top and is paid off. The 'sensible' thing to do would be to keep driving it into the dirt; especially since the trade-in/resale value isn't likely to fall much further over the next year or so.
 
Who knows, maybe Mazda would release the Kabura at about the time I 'need' a new car.......
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Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives by autonomous
Sep 11, 2006 (1:31 pm)
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Comparing the 2007 Mazdaspeed3 against the Subaru WRX, Golf GTI 5 door HB, Acura RSX type S, I must retract my earlier statement and say the Mazdaspeed3 appears to be an amazing deal. Most of these vehicles cost thousands more but don't come close to the power of the speed3. On the other hand, the RSX-S is much lighter weighing about 300 pounds under the speed3 or the WRX! Not surprisingly, the WRX and speed3 are rated among the thirstiest of the group.
 
For a cutting article on the speed3 see:
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18339&vf=15
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Re: Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives [autonomous] by daniel99
Sep 11, 2006 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 11, 2006 1:31 pm)

Looks like that article is still in progress. The full story on the MS3 is not available. But the text certainly gives it a black eye on controlling that amount of power.
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Re: Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives [daniel99] by seanwms6
Sep 11, 2006 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: daniel99 (Sep 11, 2006 3:33 pm)

Those reviewers are the ONLY ones to make that claim. At first I thought it was a principled stand against electronic nannies, but then they go on to praise the Opel's implementation of electronic nannies. I think the reviewers were consciously or otherwise biased against Mazda. Why else be so dismissive of what most other reviewers have found to be a great car? I'd take this review with a grain of salt until the big US mags do their reviews.
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Re: Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives [seanwms6] by daniel99
Sep 12, 2006 (4:29 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 11, 2006 6:09 pm)

I agree. I noticed the link to the full review up on the right. This review is quite different from the other information we have received to date. Since I am looking to buy an MS3, I don't like any bad news. At the same time, I can not dismiss the review just because I don't like what is said.
Also, this seems to be the first review where the test conditions were not controlled by Mazda. I would have thought Japanese reviews would have been readily available by now and translated. I would like some confirmation, one way or the other, from the big US mags as well.
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Re: Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives [seanwms6] by autonomous
Sep 12, 2006 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 11, 2006 6:09 pm)

At first I thought it was a principled stand against electronic nannies, but then they go on to praise the Opel's implementation of electronic nannies.
Where did you see the Opel reference?
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Re: Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives [autonomous] by d_hyper
Sep 12, 2006 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 12, 2006 8:07 am)

Holden Astra is Opel Astra
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Re: Komparisons of the Kompetition: Kudos & Knives [daniel99] by seanwms6
Sep 12, 2006 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: daniel99 (Sep 12, 2006 4:29 am)

"Since I am looking to buy an MS3, I don't like any bad news. At the same time, I can not dismiss the review just because I don't like what is said."
 
True enough. My point is that the intrusiveness of the power management is very subjective. And yet this appears to be the sole basis on which they dismiss the MPS3. They couldn't deny the objective performance characteristics, yet they say they couldn't wait to be done with it. To me, this smacks of bias. Almost as if somebody at Mazda's marketing dissed them and this was payback. Of course, I have no idea if they were truly biased or not. But it's a lot like the Motor Trend (?) review of the MS6 where the numbers show the MS6 to be 1 or 2 in the comparo and then they dismiss and put it in 4th/5th because they didn't like the interior. Very subjective and to taken with a grain of salt.

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