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Replying to: audia8q (Aug 24, 2006 6:05 am) -Thanks
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 31, 2006 12:35 pm) Looking at it another way, for less money one could buy the stylish new 2007 Camry LE V6 with 268hp and 248 ft.lbs. of torque and get better fuel economy while saving money using regular fuel!
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Replying to: daniel99 (Sep 05, 2006 2:05 pm) nope...it depends on the individual dealerships allocation earnings. |
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 06, 2006 1:45 pm) I laughed when I read this, but if you look at the weight of the car, it's really not too bad. Weighs a couple hundred more than the MS3 but a couple hundred less than the MS6. It might more sense to compare it the MS6 given it's weight penalty. And the fact that it's in a TOTALLY different market segment than the MS3.
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 07, 2006 3:15 pm) This is a frequent debate in these forums and I agree with you to a point. However, we cross-shop all the time looking for our preferred mix of options. For example, I think many of us compare the Mazda3 to the Mazda6 which occupy "different market segments". We compare four and six cylinder variants, sedans and hatchbacks, turbos and hybrid performance machines, etc. Automakers know this and respond by mixing it up: so that dowdy "station wagon" now morphs into an AWD sport wagon for the active set, that "family sedan" is now a fire-breathing sportscar, and that sportscar now has rear ("suicide"  ) doors suitable for bringing the children along. Most of us compare the benefits relative to the cost of vehicles. In other words, most bang for the buck. p.s. would it surprise you to find a 60 year old behind the wheel of a Mazdaspeed3, what does that say about marketing segments?
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 08, 2006 8:38 am) Nope. Great car for a 60 year old (or a 45 year-old with 2 kids) whose not worried about status and wants a versatile car that is a freakin' blast to drive. I think it's great that Honda spent all those ad bucks trying to make the Element ("Elderment") appeal to kids and then the retired folks snapped them up. Good to show the Marketing folks that there are limits to their ability to influence the market.
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 08, 2006 12:46 pm) Damn! You got so close to nailing me it's scary. Yeah, the girls really DON'T like climbing in and out of the back seat of my Celica so school dropoffs are a real PITA. I need to convince my wife that I need a more 'sensible'(  ) car before we finish paying off the Ody. What's cool is that an '07 Speed3 would actually be CHEAPER than my '00 GTS.....
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 08, 2006 1:49 pm)
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Replying to: ambull (Sep 09, 2006 12:01 pm) Oh, I dunno. My current car still runs like a top and is paid off. The 'sensible' thing to do would be to keep driving it into the dirt; especially since the trade-in/resale value isn't likely to fall much further over the next year or so. Who knows, maybe Mazda would release the Kabura at about the time I 'need' a new car.......
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Comparing the 2007 Mazdaspeed3 against the Subaru WRX, Golf GTI 5 door HB, Acura RSX type S, I must retract my earlier statement and say the Mazdaspeed3 appears to be an amazing deal. Most of these vehicles cost thousands more but don't come close to the power of the speed3. On the other hand, the RSX-S is much lighter weighing about 300 pounds under the speed3 or the WRX! Not surprisingly, the WRX and speed3 are rated among the thirstiest of the group. For a cutting article on the speed3 see: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=18339&vf=15
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