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Re: Car and Driver [aviboy97] by helmutroth
Sep 02, 2006 (5:41 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 5:12 am)

The 5.3 second 0-60 time is a C/D estimate. In other words, C/D did not measure the 0-60 time and does not know what it will be.
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Re: Car and Driver [aviboy97] by seanwms6
Sep 02, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 5:12 am)

I saw a brief blurb on the MS3 on C&D.com, but no mention of an 0-60 estimate. They say they will have a write-up soon. Did they do a "first drive" article with an estimate like Motor Trend?
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Re: Car and Driver [seanwms6] by helmutroth
Sep 02, 2006 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 02, 2006 12:21 pm)

C/D named the article "Preview: Mazdaspeed 3". It is not clear to me whether the author drove the car or not. He eludes to driving it but does not explicitly state that he did.
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Re: Car and Driver [helmutroth] by aviboy97
Sep 02, 2006 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: helmutroth (Sep 02, 2006 1:00 pm)

True, it does stat C/D Est. next to the time, and it is unclear if he drove it or not. I'm pretty sure 5.3-5.7 would be accurate.
 
The Sport Compact Car author said the governed torque in 1st, 2nd, 3rd was not noticeable, and gained speed rather quickly. He was very impressed. He did not post a 0-60 time.
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Re: Sport Compact Car [audia8q] by seanwms6
Sep 03, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Sep 01, 2006 6:12 am)

"You might have waited yourself out of a deal. If the very positive press continues your dealer will catch on and kibosh the s-plan."
 
If so, I won't cry. Just means I'm driving my MS6 for awhile longer. I really can't justify doing a deal other than S-Plan due to the lost value on the MS6. S-Plan doesn't quite make up for it, but it makes me feel better.
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Re: No official release date? [audia8q] by daniel99
Sep 05, 2006 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Aug 24, 2006 6:05 am)

Does the order priority depend on what state the dealership is in? It seems like the west coast would be at the front.
-Thanks
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Taxes and Pricing Alternatives [autonomous] by autonomous
Sep 06, 2006 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 31, 2006 12:35 pm)

If you factor in taxes the price of the Mazdaspeed3 is about C$38,000 which is C$10,000 more than the Mazda3 Sport GT with manual transmission. Ouch!
 
Looking at it another way, for less money one could buy the stylish new 2007 Camry LE V6 with 268hp and 248 ft.lbs. of torque and get better fuel economy while saving money using regular fuel!
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Re: No official release date? [daniel99] by audia8q
Sep 07, 2006 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: daniel99 (Sep 05, 2006 2:05 pm)

Does the order priority depend on what state the dealership is in?
 
nope...it depends on the individual dealerships allocation earnings.
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Re: Taxes and Pricing Alternatives [autonomous] by seanwms6
Sep 07, 2006 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 06, 2006 1:45 pm)

"Looking at it another way, for less money one could buy the stylish new 2007 Camry LE V6 with 268hp and 248 ft.lbs. of torque . . . ."
 
I laughed when I read this, but if you look at the weight of the car, it's really not too bad. Weighs a couple hundred more than the MS3 but a couple hundred less than the MS6. It might more sense to compare it the MS6 given it's weight penalty. And the fact that it's in a TOTALLY different market segment than the MS3.
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Alternate Realities [seanwms6] by autonomous
Sep 08, 2006 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 07, 2006 3:15 pm)

it's in a TOTALLY different market segment than the MS3.
 
This is a frequent debate in these forums and I agree with you to a point. However, we cross-shop all the time looking for our preferred mix of options. For example, I think many of us compare the Mazda3 to the Mazda6 which occupy "different market segments". We compare four and six cylinder variants, sedans and hatchbacks, turbos and hybrid performance machines, etc. Automakers know this and respond by mixing it up: so that dowdy "station wagon" now morphs into an AWD sport wagon for the active set, that "family sedan" is now a fire-breathing sportscar, and that sportscar now has rear ("suicide" ) doors suitable for bringing the children along. Most of us compare the benefits relative to the cost of vehicles. In other words, most bang for the buck.
 
p.s. would it surprise you to find a 60 year old behind the wheel of a Mazdaspeed3, what does that say about marketing segments?

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