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#413 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [seanwms6] by audia8q Sep 01, 2006 (6:12 am)
Replying to: seanwms6 (Aug 31, 2006 1:47 pm) right now it's just a phone conversation and a couple of emails. It's far from a done deal   You might have waited yourself out of a deal. If the very positive press continues your dealer will catch on and kibosh the s-plan. Replies to this message: seanwms6 (Sep 03, 2006 7:11 am)
#414 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [kronogoose] by seanwms6 Sep 01, 2006 (6:27 am)
Replying to: kronogoose (Aug 31, 2006 3:58 pm) You are smart to wait. You may well even get a leftover under $20K. However, I don't the Caliber is going to effect MS3 sales much, since they appeal to completely different buyers. Once you get past the numbers game, would more than a few potential MS3 buyers really consider a Caliber. One is an ungainly looking mini-SUV with a crappy interior and tons of unmanaged power. The other is a compact, handling (SCC even says "track car"), with power management, and a decent interior. I see the 5k cars selling well with or without the Caliber on the market. Replies to this message: kronogoose (Sep 01, 2006 7:14 am)
#415 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [seanwms6] by kronogoose Sep 01, 2006 (7:14 am)
Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 01, 2006 6:27 am) I think you're right--there may not be any real comparison for those who do their research. I can't help but think that 20-somethings (or whatever demographic the MS3 and SRT4 appeals to...I'm almost a 40-something) will cross-shop both, and based on HP numbers alone, some will choose the SRT4 over the MS3.   I personally was very excited about the Caliber SRT4, until I saw a NA Caliber in person. The looks of the car don't do anything for me, and I can't stand the rear end. The reliability and quality of Dodge products in general are a big question mark to me. To an extent, I'm still intrigued by the SRT4, but I'll need some real-world experience (auto reviews or a test drive) to even remotely consider it over the MS3.   I would much prefer to own a Mazda product, but in any case, giving the MS3 some competition can only benefit us, the car-buying public. Even though it's not a "hot hatch," I think the upcoming Si Sedan will take a share of the souped-up compact car segment.   Best of luck on your quest for the MS3! Please keep us updated on your negotiations and of course, your impressions of the car.   Greg
#416 of 548 Car and Driver by aviboy97 Sep 02, 2006 (5:12 am)
The current issue of Car and Driver drove the MS3 to a speedy 5.3 second 0-60. So much for all that talk about doing just 6.0 seconds!! Replies to this message: helmutroth (Sep 02, 2006 5:41 am) seanwms6 (Sep 02, 2006 12:21 pm) helmutroth (Sep 02, 2006 1:00 pm) aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 1:35 pm)
#417 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [aviboy97] by helmutroth Sep 02, 2006 (5:41 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 5:12 am) The 5.3 second 0-60 time is a C/D estimate. In other words, C/D did not measure the 0-60 time and does not know what it will be.
#418 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [aviboy97] by seanwms6 Sep 02, 2006 (12:21 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 5:12 am) I saw a brief blurb on the MS3 on C&D.com, but no mention of an 0-60 estimate. They say they will have a write-up soon. Did they do a "first drive" article with an estimate like Motor Trend? Replies to this message: helmutroth (Sep 02, 2006 1:00 pm) aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 1:35 pm)
#419 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [seanwms6] by helmutroth Sep 02, 2006 (1:00 pm)
Replying to: seanwms6 (Sep 02, 2006 12:21 pm) C/D named the article "Preview: Mazdaspeed 3". It is not clear to me whether the author drove the car or not. He eludes to driving it but does not explicitly state that he did. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Sep 02, 2006 1:35 pm)
#420 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [helmutroth] by aviboy97 Sep 02, 2006 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: helmutroth (Sep 02, 2006 1:00 pm) True, it does stat C/D Est. next to the time, and it is unclear if he drove it or not. I'm pretty sure 5.3-5.7 would be accurate.   The Sport Compact Car author said the governed torque in 1st, 2nd, 3rd was not noticeable, and gained speed rather quickly. He was very impressed. He did not post a 0-60 time.
#421 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [audia8q] by seanwms6 Sep 03, 2006 (7:11 am)
Replying to: audia8q (Sep 01, 2006 6:12 am) "You might have waited yourself out of a deal. If the very positive press continues your dealer will catch on and kibosh the s-plan."   If so, I won't cry. Just means I'm driving my MS6 for awhile longer. I really can't justify doing a deal other than S-Plan due to the lost value on the MS6. S-Plan doesn't quite make up for it, but it makes me feel better.
#422 of 548 Re: No official release date? [audia8q] by daniel99 Sep 05, 2006 (2:05 pm)
Replying to: audia8q (Aug 24, 2006 6:05 am) Does the order priority depend on what state the dealership is in? It seems like the west coast would be at the front. -Thanks Replies to this message: audia8q (Sep 07, 2006 9:29 am)

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