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Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA3, Hatchback
#410 of 548 Price of Mazdaspeed3 : U$ vs C$
Aug 31, 2006 (12:35 pm)
The Mazda Canada site has posted the price of the Mazdaspeed. It's interesting to compare US and Canadian prices and to see the markup of the 2007 Mazdaspeed3 over the 2007 Mazda3. It appears that the Mazdaspeed is a better deal in the good old USA!
- Mazda3 s* (*aka 5 door GT) manual
C$23400 ; U$17,575
C$31000 ; U$22,240
- Markup of Mazdaspeed3 over Mazda3
C$ 7600 (32%); U$ 4,665 (26%)
p.s. Considering the price of the Mazda6, the Mazdaspeed3 is a great deal.
#411 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [aviboy97]
Aug 31, 2006 (1:47 pm)
Hell no, right now it's just a phone conversation and a couple of emails. It's far from a done deal and not for anything they have on the way right now. It will be for a future order I'm guessing would arrive sometime around Dec/Jan. And they may well be just blowing smoke, but I will find out in the next couple of weeks when I bring my MS6 in to them for a valuation. If they go too low on the trade, I can still make it work by selling to Automax, but will lose more money due to the unfavorable sales tax treatment of leases in TX.
#412 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [seanwms6]
Aug 31, 2006 (3:58 pm)
Here is my uneducated, unfounded and completely unsolicited opinion: a buyer will always pay a premium price for the latest and greatest model. Wait if you can!
I predict that the initial enthusiasm for the MS3 will dampen significantly after the release of the Caliber SRT4. Unless Dodge makes a complete blunder, like a manufacturing defect that requires a recall, the SRT4 will dethrone the MS3 as the most powerful (and possibly the fastest) "hot hatch" in the $23K price range. Those who know better, of course, will buy the Mazda.
If the SRT4's MSRP is at or below that of the MS3, that will keep prices in check. And who knows if some other manufacturer will jump into the turbocharged compact-car arena to keep things interesting (I haven't heard anything, I'm just speculating).
Me, I'm planning on waiting until September 2007 for a "leftover". If I can get an MS3 for under $20K, I will be very pleased!
#413 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [seanwms6]
Sep 01, 2006 (6:12 am)
right now it's just a phone conversation and a couple of emails. It's far from a done deal
You might have waited yourself out of a deal. If the very positive press continues your dealer will catch on and kibosh the s-plan.
#414 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [kronogoose]
Sep 01, 2006 (6:27 am)
You are smart to wait. You may well even get a leftover under $20K. However, I don't the Caliber is going to effect MS3 sales much, since they appeal to completely different buyers. Once you get past the numbers game, would more than a few potential MS3 buyers really consider a Caliber. One is an ungainly looking mini-SUV with a crappy interior and tons of unmanaged power. The other is a compact, handling (SCC even says "track car"), with power management, and a decent interior. I see the 5k cars selling well with or without the Caliber on the market.
#415 of 548 Re: Sport Compact Car [seanwms6]
Sep 01, 2006 (7:14 am)
I think you're right--there may not be any real comparison for those who do their research. I can't help but think that 20-somethings (or whatever demographic the MS3 and SRT4 appeals to...I'm almost a 40-something) will cross-shop both, and based on HP numbers alone, some will choose the SRT4 over the MS3.
I personally was very excited about the Caliber SRT4, until I saw a NA Caliber in person. The looks of the car don't do anything for me, and I can't stand the rear end. The reliability and quality of Dodge products in general are a big question mark to me. To an extent, I'm still intrigued by the SRT4, but I'll need some real-world experience (auto reviews or a test drive) to even remotely consider it over the MS3.
I would much prefer to own a Mazda product, but in any case, giving the MS3 some competition can only benefit us, the car-buying public. Even though it's not a "hot hatch," I think the upcoming Si Sedan will take a share of the souped-up compact car segment.
Best of luck on your quest for the MS3! Please keep us updated on your negotiations and of course, your impressions of the car.
#416 of 548 Car and Driver
Sep 02, 2006 (5:12 am)
The current issue of Car and Driver drove the MS3 to a speedy 5.3 second 0-60. So much for all that talk about doing just 6.0 seconds!!
#417 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [aviboy97]
Sep 02, 2006 (5:41 am)
The 5.3 second 0-60 time is a C/D estimate. In other words, C/D did not measure the 0-60 time and does not know what it will be.
#418 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [aviboy97]
Sep 02, 2006 (12:21 pm)
I saw a brief blurb on the MS3 on C&D.com, but no mention of an 0-60 estimate. They say they will have a write-up soon. Did they do a "first drive" article with an estimate like Motor Trend?
#419 of 548 Re: Car and Driver [seanwms6]
Sep 02, 2006 (1:00 pm)
C/D named the article "Preview: Mazdaspeed 3". It is not clear to me whether the author drove the car or not. He eludes to driving it but does not explicitly state that he did.