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Re: Drag queens and schizos [autonomous] by audia8q
Aug 17, 2006 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 14, 2006 12:27 pm)

Finally, what percentage of Mazda3 drivers use the stick?
 
for the 2006 model year our MZ3 sales break down to 76% auto and 24% manual trans. The entire northeast region runs 68% auto and 32% stick.
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Re: Drag queens and schizos [audia8q] by rorr
Aug 17, 2006 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Aug 17, 2006 6:54 am)

I'd be willing to bet a large sum that the % of MZ3 owners who opt for a stick is HIGHER than the % of MZ6 owners who go that route.
 
Point being that the Speed6 had a tougher sell by offering manuals only than (IMO) the Speed3 will.
 
Regarding the Speed6; is there any reason why the automatic from the AWD CX7 couldn't be used in the Speed6? In other words, if the lack of an automatic is a problem for the Speed6, wouldn't it be a rather simple issue for Mazda to resolve?
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Niche [audia8q] by autonomous
Aug 17, 2006 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Aug 17, 2006 6:54 am)

68% auto and 32% stick
 
That's about what I was expecting. In other words, the majority of drivers of the Mazda3 (and likely the Mazda6) use an automatic.
 
Mazdaspeed, which is the top of the line version of the Mazda3 and Mazda6, is not only the costliest but is exclusively for a minority of drivers, those who use manual transmissions. Other manufacturers use a similar approach for their "serious", "high performance" machines. This makes sense if you have enough in the pool to justify the costs of producing the exclusive line.
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How much is that dragster in the window? [rorr] by autonomous
Aug 17, 2006 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Aug 17, 2006 8:00 am)

Speed6 had a tougher sell by offering manuals only than (IMO) the Speed3 will.
 
Agreed. Especially, if you consider the price difference.
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Sports Compact Car Super Lovey Write-up by seanwms6
Aug 19, 2006 (2:15 am)
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Apparently not on the stands yet, so I haven't seen it, but subscribers apparently have. SCC got enought hot laps (no equipment hooked up, so no stats) to fall way in love with the MS3. Cover says: "APEXPREDATOR". I suspect heavy Mazda ad buy (?) might have facilitated the love, but who knows.
  
They purportedly say the GTI and SI are not in the same league, 'cause the MS3 "is that good". Article also is reported to report official output at 263 hp. If it's running 91 octane at the that hp, and if that's SAE corrected, I think it means there is very little difference in power b/t the MS3 and MS6 at 93. Lastly, reported report on unit volume for the US is 5K annually. But as someone noted, that is the same volume as the M3 GT. It's also the same volume as the MS6. I don't know what it all means for certain, but so far 1 out 6 dealers I pinged about honoring S-Plan for an ordered (unallotted?) MS3 has declined.
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Re: How much is that dragster in the window? [autonomous] by aviboy97
Aug 19, 2006 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 17, 2006 9:45 am)

Speed6 had a tougher sell by offering manuals only than (IMO) the Speed3 will.
 

 
The Speed6 was targeted twards people who would also shop Audi, BMW. The majority of those people want an automatic.
 
The Speed3 is targeted to the GTI crowd, which mainly prefer stick.
 
Speed3 should sell well.
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Re: How much is that dragster in the window? [aviboy97] by seanwms6
Aug 20, 2006 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 19, 2006 6:56 am)

Aviboy, any chance in Hades that a dealer would be more likely to agree to sell a "special order" MS3 on S-Plan vs. than one of their allotted cars? The reason I ask is someone on another forum got a dealer to agree to this, FWIW. But I wonder if there really is any distinction between ordered and allotted cars for all practical purposes.
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Re: Sports Compact Car Super Lovey Write-up [seanwms6] by kronogoose
Aug 21, 2006 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Aug 19, 2006 2:15 am)

seanwms6: Thanks for the new information. I'll have to look for the next SCC to read the entire article. It's hard to imagine what could make the writers think the MS3 is in a different league than the GTI and Si.
 
You own a MS6, right? Are you considering the MS3?
 
Thanks!
 
Greg
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Re: Sports Compact Car Super Lovey Write-up [kronogoose] by seanwms6
Aug 21, 2006 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: kronogoose (Aug 21, 2006 1:16 pm)

Yeah, a lot of people are frantically searching store shelves for copies right now.
 
I got an MS6 last December but have always like the 3 hatch and just needed more power. If I'd known the MS3 would come out this Fall, I'd have waited and not gotten the MS6. Now I just will have to wait for the intro craziness to die down to see if I can get S-Plan pricing. Until then I can't justify trading in the MS6 since it has lost so much value with the severe discounting going on. If it doesn't happen, I'm very happy to continue driving the MS6.
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Re: Sports Compact Car Super Lovey Write-up [seanwms6] by rorr
Aug 22, 2006 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: seanwms6 (Aug 21, 2006 2:56 pm)

"Yeah, a lot of people are frantically searching store shelves for copies right now."
 
Well, I read the article (at that 'other' site). All, I can say is I really really REALLY want one now.....
 
Too bad you couldn't have held out a few more months and got a MS3 instead....

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