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#11 of 548 Re: Mazdaspeed 6 [autonomous] by qddave May 09, 2005 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: autonomous (May 09, 2005 11:59 am) I heard from my dealer that they delayed it because of insufficient launch resources. Mazda's launching the MX-5 and the MX-CrossSport (9?), not to mention a refresh of the 6 and obviously working on the Mazdaspeed3. I heard rumblings of the RX-7 as well. That's a lot of programs. Although, I also have this feeling that they went back to the drawing board to find a few more ponies under the Mazdaspeed6's hood to keep up with the competition. Replies to this message: mdaffron (May 11, 2005 10:00 am) blueguydotcom (May 17, 2005 10:40 am) mazda6s (May 17, 2005 1:47 pm)
#12 of 548 delay by audia8q May 10, 2005 (1:00 pm)
The delay is related to quality control and fixing some bugs before shipping the car.
#13 of 548 Re: Mazdaspeed 6 [qddave] by mdaffron May 11, 2005 (10:00 am)
Replying to: qddave (May 09, 2005 8:09 pm) Don't forget they're also launching the Mazda5 this summer!   Meade
#14 of 548 Re: Mazdaspeed 6 [qddave] by blueguydotcom May 17, 2005 (10:40 am)
Replying to: qddave (May 09, 2005 8:09 pm) They should fix a lot of things before releasing it. From what I've read in reviews the MS6 is pretty disappointing. Heavy, pretty slow, weird handling (AWD doesn't push the majority of power to the rear...what the blazes?!).   The Mazdaspeed3 could be a nice competitor to the Audi A3 (at least for me). Replies to this message: mazda6s (May 17, 2005 1:47 pm)
#15 of 548 Re: Mazdaspeed 6 [blueguydotcom] by mazda6s May 17, 2005 (1:47 pm)
Replying to: blueguydotcom (May 17, 2005 10:40 am) Where did you see a review of the Mazdaspeed 6?
#16 of 548 Pricing and comparing the Mazdaspeed 3 by autonomous May 20, 2005 (4:58 am)
Does anyone have information about the approximate price of the upcoming Mazdaspeed 3? It's likely that it would be priced higher than the Mazda 3 SP23 edition, but would it be +10%, +20% or (gasp) more?   Also, what would you consider to be the major selling feature? Is it the increased horsepower or is it the "package"? The SP23 looks like a neat package but with the same 160 hp engine of the s model. Is the Mazdaspeed 3 be an SP23 with a turbo?   Also, to which cars would you compare the Mazdaspeed 3. Is it in the Subaru WRX and Acura RSX Type S league or somewhere else? This league is much pricier than the current Mazda3 lineup but, I find, Mazda quite often offers more value than its competition.   My take: if the Mazdaspeed 3 offered the perfomance quoted in the media (200+hp) and was priced under a Subaru WRX or Acura RSX Type S, this could be a very hot product. Replies to this message: biggus3 (May 22, 2005 10:19 pm)
#17 of 548 Re: Pricing and comparing the Mazdaspeed 3 [autonomous] by biggus3 May 22, 2005 (10:19 pm)
Replying to: autonomous (May 20, 2005 4:58 am) It is most likely going to be more than an SP23 with a turbo. Every mazdaspeed product released to date has had some suspension work. I dont see any way that this will be any different.   As for the competition, the WRX may be a strech. Most reports about the mazdaspeed3 say FWD. This will be a setback if you are cross shopping the two cars since the power numbers should be the same. If I were to give competitors, I would say the RSX Type S, GTI, SRT-4, and as a bit of a stretch the Cooper S.
#18 of 548 review mazdaspeed6 by gib11 May 23, 2005 (9:42 am)
A review dating from 2-2005 "Le Monde de l'Auto"in Canada states (I translate): Beside's the back seats that dont fold no more, the MSP6 show's conviviality and good manners for the whole public. Hable to show performances reserved for more tuned sports cars, the MSP6 can perform remarquably well... available probably this summer at a base price of 35,000.$... Real good deal!" 4stars out of 5stars 0-100km/h = 6,6sec. 4c. 2,3lter ID, turbo 274hp at 5500 rpm 280p.f torque at 3000rpm fuel consumption 8,8l/100km   some other comments: "at 100km/h (62mph) the motor seems to be relaxing at 2,300rpm" "It can go from 80 to 120km/h in 5,3 seconds" "much of the power is gain between 2,500 and 4,500rpm, in third gear, you can easely accelerate from 60 to 100" "red line starts at 7000rpm"
#19 of 548 Mazdaspeed3 & its contenders by autonomous May 24, 2005 (4:43 am)
Here is a list of some contenders to the future Mazdaspeed3.   4 cylinder contenders (in price order) Mazda 3 s U$18.7; 2.3 L ; 4 cyl. ; 5 speed; 160 hp ; 150 ft. lb. ; weight = 2826 ; EPA= 25 / 32 Mini Cooper Type S U$20.4; 1.6 L ; 4 cyl. ; 6 speed; 168 hp ; 162 ft. lb. ; weight = 2679 ; EPA= 25 / 32 Neon SRT 4 U$20.6; 2.3 L ; 4 cyl. ; 6 speed; 220 hp ; 245 ft. lb. ; weight = 2900 ; EPA= 22 / 30 Mazda 6 i U$21.5; 2.3 L ; 4 cyl. ; 5 speed; 160 hp ; 155 ft. lb. ; weight = 3102 ; EPA= 23 / 31 Acura RSX Type S U$23.7; 2.0 L ; 4 cyl. ; 6 speed; 200 hp ; 143 ft. lb. ; weight = 2840 ; EPA= 23 / 31 Mazdaspeed 6 (for comparison) U$28.0; 2.3 L ; 4 cyl. ; 6 speed; 274 hp ; 280 ft. lb. ; weight = 3589 ; EPA= 20 / 26   6 cylinder contender Volkswagen GTI U$22.3; 2.3 L ; 6 cyl. ; 6 speed; 200 hp ; 195 ft. lb. ; weight = 3036 ; EPA= 21 / 30   If the Mazdaspeed3 gets approximately 220hp and 200 ft lbs.of torque, weighs under 3000# and sells for under U$23K this will be quite a package. The information is derived from Edmunds. Replies to this message: biggus3 (May 24, 2005 8:57 am) afrocelt (Oct 09, 2006 11:50 am)
#20 of 548 Re: Mazdaspeed3 & its contenders [autonomous] by biggus3 May 24, 2005 (8:57 am)
Replying to: autonomous (May 24, 2005 4:43 am) Mazda has said 250hp.   There is no way the Mazdaspeed3 will compete with the Mazda6i. The 6i is much slower and much larger than the Mazdaspeed3. Replies to this message: afrocelt (Oct 09, 2006 11:50 am)

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