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"To make the Supra, only THE GREATEST sports car of the 20th century" Ok something is wrong with you if you meant that seriously. I am a Toyota fan and I dont agree with that at all. The 20th century is A LOT of cars. I wouldnt even put Supra in the top 100. Are you forgetting the 300SL? The Ferrari 250 GT0? The Porsche 550 speedster? The Jaguar E-type? And countless other greats that would slot WELL above a Toyota Supra on the list of the 20th century's greatest sports cars?
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Dude, you're playing into my strengths here! Supra knowledge! The Supra was the best sports car of the 90's. The best Toyota has EVER produced. The Best value (Under $40k). Won every comparison! Better than ZR-1 (forget a mere mortal Vette)! Better than NSX (MT)! Better than RX-7 (C&D)! Compared to 512TR and 911 (Seriously!). R&T once said "It's so competent (at beating 300ZX, Vette, and 3000GT), it's boring!" Best braking distance C&D has ever recorded (a record that stood for years until VERY recently)! The wunderlust of every aftermarket tuner in the US, able to support 900+HP without chassis bracing, and with the stock tranny!!! And a mighty fine looker as well! This was no car, it was a freak of nature. You have Mickey Mantle, Gandhi, The Godfather, Barry Sanders, and the 1993 Toyota Supra. I'm not gonna break down a great sports car of the 50s or 60s. All I can say is today's cars are better than the cars of yesteryear. You won't find a Gullwing that can run with a modern Supra. Was it an icon? Sure! Is it a Supra? I think not! Maybe every 10-12 years, 'Yota will create another marsterpiece, a new heir to the throne? Name me a car that can do what a Supra could, look good, beat all comers, and cost.....$38k? DrFill |
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The '80s, early 90s Vettes were hardly the best cars ever to wear that name plate. The Vette didnt become a legitimate sports car until '97. The 3000GT also weighed about 8 billion pounds and was never much of a sports car. The Supra TT was one of the greats of the '90s, and of course a tuner favorite, but it would get thoroughly destroyed by THE ultimate tuner car and THE Japanese sports car icon, the R-34 Nissan Skyline GT-R. No other Japanese performance car even comes close. If Nissan's new world model GT-R is anything like the last one, Toyota is going to have a seriously tough competitior on their hands. |
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If it was so hot, why couldn't it make it here? If it doesn't get to the majors, is it a Hall of Famer? Funny sidebar. The Sura and the C5 faced off once in C&D in a comparison in 1997-8, and the Vette beat it by one point (Did you think the 5 year old Supra was going to beat a shiny next-gen Vette?) I think the Supra had a better road course lap time too! Vette won 0-60 4.8 to 5.0. Both lost the comparo to the M3! DrFill |
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If the Supra was never sold in the United States, would it have the popularity that the Skyline does here? I seriously doubt it. It was a great car, but anybody can put a FE\RWD car together with a good suspension and make a sports car. Nissan was years ahead of SH-AWD with their ATTESA-ETS electronic AWD system, the first of its kind that kept all of the power at the rear wheels until the front tires needed more traction, and also included rear wheel steering. Despite being a large, rather heavy coupe, the R-34 was good for 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. It could outlap a Porsche Carrera 4. It could also brake to 0 from 70mph in 150 feet. The R-34 never made it here because of the situation that Nissan was in during the cars run. If it did, it could easily go toe-to-toe with any M3 and squash Corvette C5 and Supra. And just like the Supra, the R-34 is capable of 800hp+ on largely stock mechanicals. |
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The Skyline was/is quite ugly! I now know what "Goes like stink" means. It looks lke the Supra after it's been through a demolition derby! Never liked Nissan's style. Has ugly ways (M45, old and new, Q, M30, J30, 300Z 2+2), until VERY recenty (Murano, FX, Altima). DrFill |
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As reported at the NAIAS, Danny Clements, GM of lexus, says any production car version of the LF-A would run about $125k. He called this price a "sweet spot" or soft part of the market. The main competition would be Porsche 911 Turbo at that price. This undercuts Ford GT and Ferrari 430 by $25-40k. This prototype seems further along than most Lexus concepts. I'd say it could be ready by early 2007, after the LS comes out. DrFill |
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Hhahahaha. Very clever comeback drfill. "Oh yeah? We'll you're ugly." Would people pay $60K+ For an imported '98 Supra TT? I seriously doubt it. Some people must like the R-34's looks. By the way, the '99 Blitz Skyline has been clocked at 220mph. |
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i think that lexus build that car directly to enter the competion from the biggest door as the next gen. SC with may be 3 engines the high out hp will be hybrid shared with the future supra and one other will be chared with the next gen LS and i think the 5.0L
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