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Saturn Aura, Concept Cars
#722 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [kurtamaxxxguy]
Oct 02, 2006 (5:16 am)
How this will affect the Aura, I don't know, as it would be unusual for Saturn to adopt a completely new unibody for the Aura a year into its production.
Very good point. Since the Aura was just a minor revision to the European version and 2008 is the first usage of the eps 2 we will see a mixture of eps 1 and eps 2 vehicles being built at the same time. Most likely the same plants could build both platforms. Currently the Aura and Malibu are built in Kansas City and the G6 at Orion.
Most likely one plant will be picked (or a new plant!) to start up the Malibu/Eps 2. The Malibu volume should fill most of one plant. Then the lower volume Saabs will be brought into the same plant 6 months or so later. A year later the LaCrosse will start to be built somewhere else (Lake Orion?) and then some time after that a revised G6 and then a new revised Aura.
So possible plant splits here in the US.
2008 kansas City? Malibu/Saabs
2009/2010 Orion? LaCrosse/G6/Aura
Of course one model could be built in both plants to give some volume flexibility. Probably the LaCrosse.
Reason why above could be wrong is that they introduced Aura in Kansas. Would have made more sense to start it in Orion. Then again the plants are flexible enough that moving a car to a different plant is not as crazy as it used to be and Kansas City needed some volume untill the new Malibu came out. G6 is outselling the old Malibu.
#723 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [62vetteefp]
Oct 02, 2006 (1:29 pm)
I thought SAAB is built in Sweden. I remember plant in Sweden was underutilized and they wanted to move production to Opel. Then came Cadillac and saved Saab.
#724 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [savetheland]
Oct 02, 2006 (1:37 pm)
Ye, Saab's are imported. Looks like the Eps 2 will be built in Russelheim though. In fact I recall now that the G6 convertible was supposed to be an easy development because they would just use Saab parts, but it was found that Europe had revised the Saab for their own reasons and no longer a compatible.
So perhaps the LaCrosse will be built with the Malibu?
#725 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [62vetteefp]
Oct 02, 2006 (1:45 pm)
Why Buick needs small cars? May be they better keep it full-size division leaving small upscale cars to Saturn?
#726 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [savetheland]
Oct 02, 2006 (2:09 pm)
Actually the new Eps 2 LaCrosse will be a mid size car with a good sized interior. Almost the soze of the old Regal/Century.
Pontiacs largest car will just be slightly larger.
Not sure that Buick could survive just on large cars. Not much market. They need to be a premium marque, not just a large car marque.
#727 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [savetheland]
Oct 03, 2006 (5:15 am)
Buick could use a smaller car to keep a Buick guy from looking at other brands outside GM. I think a small Buick would be good, they could get rid of the badge engineered van and SUV instead if they want to keep the models down.
#728 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [vanman1]
Oct 03, 2006 (6:35 am)
Both the van and Rendy are gone soon. Buick will only have:
LaCrosse-midsize FWD, soon to be Eps 2
Lucerne-large FWD, perhaps a RWD 2010
And a couple Supers that I think will be at SEMA.
Issue with Enclave is that GMC will also have a CUV in the dealership. I forsee the Enclave going away some day and hopefully replaced with an upscale 2 or 4 seater roadster($35K).
#729 of 1478 epsilon
Oct 03, 2006 (1:35 pm)
I dont believe the Malibu is on Ep2. The first car to get this architecture will be the 9-3 or the next Opel Vectra. AWD will be offered on EP2 models. I dont think you will see and Ep2 model in the US until the Lacrosse is replaced in 2009. The Malibu will basically be the same as the Aura with a different exterior and a four cylinder base model. Do not expect a new Aura until 2010 at the earliest.
The Altima does indeed look almost unchanged and I wouldn't be surprised if it goes unoticed by many buyers. This is the same problem Ford had (in addition to gas prices) with the 2006 Explorer. To me the Altima and Maxima are so similar that I have to wonder why anyone would pay for the Maxima. The 2007 Altima isnt a bad looking car, but it's not a new look like the Aura.
#730 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [62vetteefp]
Oct 03, 2006 (5:48 pm)
Buick should also offer big fullsize convertible (like Chrysler 300)
#731 of 1478 Re: Aura article-styling wins R&T [savetheland]
Oct 04, 2006 (5:21 am)
Yes! Unfrotunately there are no full size convertibles within the GM family and it would be awful expensive. But a Zeta convertible Buick could also spawn an Impala convertible!