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#61 of 1463 aristotle by vanman1 May 03, 2005 (11:55 am)
If you are concerned about mileage, the 2.4L 170hp inline 4 will be available as the base engine. The Pontiac G6 will be getting that same engine in it's base model coming in about 2-3 months.   Chevy does compete with Honda and Toyota also but Saturn has a better rate of conversion from the Asian cars than Chevy. Saturn's no hassle buying and higher customer service are part of that attraction I guess.
#62 of 1463 some pictures of the facelifted Opel Vectra by carlisimo May 04, 2005 (8:15 am)
It's halfway through its generation cycle now (the outgoing Vectra had Fusion-like headlights). Does that mean the Saturn Aura will only last three years in its first generation, or will GM pull a Focus and keep the old one around for longer than in Europe?   The car gets good reviews in England (as a Vauxhaul, not an Opel).
#63 of 1463 carl by vanman1 May 04, 2005 (5:19 pm)
Looks like the next ION.   Great pictures!!
#64 of 1463 I'm still bothered.... by one2one May 06, 2005 (9:06 am)
by proposed pricing. From what I've read, pricing is expected to top out around $27,000+ (US). That concerns me and here's why:   I read an article in Detroit News on the 3.5 Altima. A Nissan Altima 3.5 SL starts at $27k. After options you're kissing $30k. The article wisely pointed out the senselessness of buying a $30,000 Altima V-6 when you can get it's "alternate reality" twin -- the Infiniti G35 for the same price.   If GM really wants to sell this car, they may have to cut their throats on pricing in order to get non-GM customers. It's the age-old dilema: price it high and sell a few or price it low and sell a lot? If GM's going to throw money down the toilet in rebates after introducing the car (which is their practice), why not just give up $2,000 - $4,000 off the top? This is oversimplified, of course, but why would I buy a $27,000+ Saturn then option it to $30,000 when I could get a Cadillac CTS for $31,000?   Hyundai did this. They sold cheap cars (and everyone KNEW they were cheap!!!) and people bought them because of pricing. Now Hyundai is outselling the Big 3 and is developing an impressive lineup (probably using all that money they made pricing cars cheap ) If GM wants the same sucess, they'll have to price lower than market. That's the only way to get Japanese car drivers to chance GM. If they don't feel they're out a lot should they become disappointed with the car, they'll be more prone to buy it. If they like the car, all their friends will try it... and so on, and so on.... Replies to this message: alpha01 (May 06, 2005 9:20 am) fbcjr (May 06, 2005 12:45 pm)
#65 of 1463 Re: I'm still bothered.... [one2one] by alpha01 May 06, 2005 (9:20 am)
Replying to: one2one (May 06, 2005 9:06 am) A 30K Altima has NAV and a lot of features that a 30K G35 absolutely doesnt, and by the time negotiations are done, that decked out 3.5SL can be had for 28K plus TTL. There are many people who would rather have the feature rich vehicle, given the same excellent engine (3.5L).... and there are still a lot of people who don't want an RWD car. Food for thought.   ~alpha Replies to this message: fbcjr (May 06, 2005 12:45 pm)
#66 of 1463 Re: I'm still bothered.... [alpha01] by fbcjr May 06, 2005 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: alpha01 (May 06, 2005 9:20 am) I agree with you Alpha01. By the time I get most of the near-lux models optioned up to where I want them, they look a lot closer to 40k than 30k. I definitely fall in the category of going for a model with a lower, initial sticker price and getting all the options rather than going for a stripped, higher sticker-price car. To me, things like heated seats and remote start make all the difference in the day-to-day usability of the vehicle -- now that I've had them, I can't do without them.
#67 of 1463 Re: I suspect good things.... [alpha01] by savetheland May 06, 2005 (3:58 pm)
Replying to: alpha01 (Apr 06, 2005 11:29 am) Saturn never offered OHV engines. Using DOHC engines was Saturns philosophy from the beginning. For this purpose they developed unique DOHC four used only in Saturns, or used Opel or Honda sourced V6.   Regarding price – fully loaded Camry also costs around, if not more than 30K. It is matter of how luxurious interior and how many gadgets do you want in car and how much do you want to sacrifice ride, braking and steering quality. On luxury brands for the same price you will get much better car, but in basic form. Some prefer basic car that drives good, others – gadgets, high quality leather and wood accents.   VW, Opel and Saturn – all are moving up. GM wants (Korean made) Chevy to take Opel place in Europe. VW has already moved up. VW Golf is not your typical econobox like Civic or Focus. All other VW cars look and even feel luxurious as well.
#68 of 1463 one2one by vanman1 May 07, 2005 (4:53 pm)
I agree, $27K sounds a little high. That said, that must be for the V6 version as there is suppose to be a 2.4L 170hp base model also,
#69 of 1463 Ooof by chris65amg May 09, 2005 (2:48 pm)
I think that it is a little high, 25k would be just right.
#70 of 1463 "The most refined car this side of a BMW 5 Series" by one2one May 15, 2005 (7:09 pm)
That's how AutoExpress decscibed the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra (the Eurpoean version of the Aura - http://vauxhall.co.uk/showroom/search/brand.jhtml?brand=Vectra&vehicleType=Car )   Now if GM doesn't dumb it down for the states and Canada (which they usually do), I think we might have a winner.   I'm assuming the Vectra is rear wheel drive while our version will be front wheel. Perhaps after its introduction they'll give us an all-wheel drive version.   Wouldn't that be funny - Saturn competing with BMW?!!!

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