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#1 of 46 What vehicle(s) did you trade (or sell) for your hybrid or diesel?
Jan 03, 2005 (11:17 pm)
Just curious to see what the MPG differential was for a lot of hybrid or diesel owners from their previous car(s). Any big SUV or pickup owners that went eco?
I have a '96 Caprice with 5.7L V8 that I was thinking of trading toward a 2003 VW Jetta TDI Wagon. However, for my commute (mixed city/highway) the Caprice gets 25 mpg which isn't all that bad given that my round-trip commute is only 18 miles per day.
If someone bought my Caprice and then used it to commute 80+ miles round-trip (quite common in my location), then by selling it, I could be hurting the environment more than helping it. Of course, what if that person traded a big pickup or SUV...etc., etc.
#2 of 46 Oh Baby did I ditch a dog for a Queen.......
Jan 04, 2005 (7:33 am)
I traded a 4WD 2002 Chevy Avalanche making 13.5 MPG for my 2004 MT HCH which is giving me 47 MPG so far.
old Avalanche payment = $880
new Civic payment = $429
monthly payment savings: $451
Monthly fuel savings at 1000 miles per month and $2 per gallon is $105
Insurance is $15 cheaper on the HCH monthly
Total savings per month: $571
Total savings per year: $6852
Very few people can do this, but I could, and I did, and I love my HCH !!!
#3 of 46 Re: dog for a queen
Jan 04, 2005 (10:53 am)
Cool! Hopefully, someone who lives within 2 miles from work bought your Avalanche.
#4 of 46 I hope I did the right thing here....
Jan 04, 2005 (4:17 pm)
Sold in march of 2004 my one year old FX 35 - fully loaded with rear view camera, front radar (slows down your cruise if the car ahead of you is slower than your cruise speed...and picks it back up to the cruise speed once the distance between you and the car is safe enough), dvd player and screen, navigation, keyless entry (as in prius 04 and up)...etc....
and went ahead and bought a used 2001 Prius with 91k miles on board.
Jan 27, 2005 (5:50 pm)
Drove my '94 Dodge 160K miles for 10 years and replaced it with my 04 HCH.
I saved more than $5,000 in gasoline costs last year.
Dodge averaged about 17-18MPG, last year I averaged 58 point something in my HCH.
#6 of 46 one civic for another
Jan 27, 2005 (8:12 pm)
I traded in my 2002 Honda Civic Si (the hatchback) with a 2.0L iVTEC which averaged 26 MPG (mostly city).
Replaced it with a 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT which is averaging 45 MPG (mostly city).
#7 of 46 If you are in certain situations, it's a no-brainer
Jan 28, 2005 (11:24 am)
I replaced a Chevy Avalanche with an HCH, and it was mostly a financial decision. I'm saving about $7,400 (seventy four hundred dollars) a year versus the Avalanche with reduced gas use and reduced car payments and reduced insurance figured in, as well as reduced vehicle registration costs.
#8 of 46 Re: If you are in certain situations, it's a no-brainer [larsb]
Jan 28, 2005 (2:06 pm)
___From the rest of us that encourage decreased consumption no matter the method, I thank you.
___Wayne R. Gerdes
#9 of 46 P3oz, you did the right thing.
Jan 28, 2005 (3:17 pm)
Heres my story.
When I totalled my 93 Plymouth Voyager, my insurance provided a '02 Toyota Echo rental. For 27 days I used it exactly the same way I did to work, and then lived and breathed in that Echo as I scrambled around town to get a replacement for the Voyager. Needless to say, I got to know that car very well. I also was quiet disappointed with the mileage.
When we finally got a used 2001 Prius for the price of a Corolla, I had a really good 4 way comparison mileage wise. My experience?
1) '93 Voyager well kept, was comparable to our '00 Mazda MPV.
2) '02 Echo was exactly twice more efficient than the Voyager.
3) '01 Prius is 40~45% more efficient than '02 Echo.
Myth Blown: Echo/Corolla/Civic as efficient as Prius.
(... not in your dreams buddy).
But my story does not end there. Our 2nd child came and my wife will be stay at home again for the next 5 years. Our Prius with the bigger loan has to go.
So November, bought a 94 Jetta 1.9TD to replace the Prius. Kept the Prius while in the process of working out all the kinks on the junka er.. jetta. Needless to say I'm disappointed with the diesels mileage. My experience?
4) 94 Jetta 1.9TD manual is only about as efficient as the '02 Echo.
This after using all the tricks I learned with the Prius (40+psi, "pseudo" impulse driving in 5th gear, timing red lights and coasting in neutral). I may still be able to improve this, but the old 01' Prius had so far given us 48mpg. And thats only because wife ruined my 52mpg everytime she used it.
It may sound like gimmicky hocus-pocus, but the Prius's ability to cut off engine while coasting or stopped makes a difference. And impulse driving works too. When we 1st had the Prius I was quiet disappointed with the mileage like a lot of people. However knowing what I know now, hybrids are the way to go.
Jan 28, 2005 (7:54 pm)
2001 BMW 530i for a 2004 HCH. It was my wife's. She's a peach.