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Replying to: bls2753 (Jul 27, 2006 11:34 pm) Get out of your upper middle class subdivision and look around. Do it every day, and after reading this thread I vividly remember my first car buying experience from a classic BHPH. Didn't now it was one at the time, but what a stinky outfit... I don't mean to be mean or anything, but I think you might be a little off in your perception, not the rest of us. |
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Replying to: bls2753 (Jul 27, 2006 11:34 pm) No argument from me here. Get out of your upper middle class subdivision and look around. I live in the city - Saint Paul (though not downtown, hardly anybody lives there.) I'm am an adjunct instructor at a local community college, have a masters degree and make 28K a year. Live quite adequately thank you. I always drive BHPH cars, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. And yes, 30K houses here do exist, and they're not shacks. Good for you (but boy, am I glad I chose industry over academia - and primarily because of the tenure treadmill, not money.) And I mostly buy and drive used cars, too - though usually privately, not through BHPH. 30k 3-bedroom houses, though? Please email an ad for one or two privately. |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 13, 2006 11:46 am) and don't forget to pay your property taxes too. |
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Replying to: bls2753 (Jul 27, 2006 11:34 pm) |
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Replying to: bls2753 (Jul 24, 2006 1:40 am)  That second para - where are the $25,000.0 3-bedroom homes  - I'll buy 4 right away if there are any in FL!!!
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Replying to: cadillacmike (Aug 13, 2006 5:37 am) Patronage of BHPH dealers is not always a result of bad credit or stupidity. It may be true in large east coast urban areas, but not everywhere. I will admit with the advent of the internet, finding good used cars at half the price of local BHPH lots is a much better value. At the end of the day, all car financing is a rip-off no matter where you buy. Buy the most car you can pay cash for.
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Replying to: bls2753 (Oct 10, 2006 10:11 pm) Even the 0% deals?
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Replying to: bls2753 (Oct 10, 2006 10:11 pm) Where do you get this? Not everybody can afford to pay cash for their cars like you obviously are able to. |
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Replying to: mac24 (Oct 11, 2006 8:52 am) As long as I can borrow money at a lower rate than I make on my investments, why the hell would I take the money out of the investments?? Sometimes its just painfully easy to finance. The loan on our chrysler, for instance, charges less interest than my 7-month old makes on his lousy savings account!
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I financed my first car when I was still 17. The lot owner figured why not, since I had already bought two cash cars from him and the note wouldn't end until I was 18. $300 down and $50 a week, total of $1300, for a 1975 Torino. I paid it off when I left for school, and he mailed me the title. No problem. Except the car burned to the ground before I got to school. Tires were to blame, I should have changed the front ones before taking a 900 mile trip at 75mph+ through Texas, New Mexico, and Colorado to get to Wyoming. Tough roads. I financed another car when I got to Wyoming. Parents took me up there and bought me a $300 1980 Caprice to get me by. Caprice overheated badly, still ran, but I couldn't rely on it to deliver pizza. So I put it and $300 down on a 1979 Chrysler LeBaron. Paid it off and traded it for a 1985 Olds Delta 88, cash deal, kept it for awhile. I financed my next car at a BHPH in Marion, Ohio. 1980 Buick Electra. $300 down, $50 a week, it got me around for a month until the starter locked up and caused a fire under the hood. Dealer took it back, no questions asked, and put me in a 1985 Dodge Charger hatchback. A month later my Dad co-signed a bank note on a nicer car (1993 Dynasty) and I gave the Charger back to the lot. No problem, they didn't care, they'd sell it to someone else. They were working on rewiring the Buick when I dropped the Charger off. Next BHPH lot I bought from was my wife's Lumina this past February. We're still paying on the car, had to make a couple minor repairs, but it's doing fine. We put $1300 down on it and financed around $3400 on a $3995 car at $75 a week. Pretty decent deal for a clean, reliable, well-kept 8-year old sedan with 118K on it and a dent in the left front fender. And finally, a couple hours later, two blocks over, I bought a 1997 model Lumina for $4995 and $700 down and $65 a week. I only got it so we'd have two good cars, but this one didn't turn out so good and wouldn't pass inspection. Because of the laws in Texas regarding emissions, the dealer either had to fix it to pass or buy it back. Instead, the dealer conveniently "lost" our last payment check, repossessed the car, and sold it to some other unlucky sucker. No problem. I don't have to worry about that car anymore, and because of their attitude and the quality of the cars on their lot, I'm not buying from that lot again. I even sent a friend to buy a truck from them at one point, and it turned out to be a real pile. They pulled the same trick, edited their computer to no longer show the last payment, repossessed the truck, and left him hanging. Reminds me...MAKE SURE you get a receipt every time you make a payment. Might help in small claims court. And if it wasn't over a measly $700 down payment and a few biweeklies, I'd be suing that dealer. Much cheaper to just let it go. I don't want to BHPH finance another car, but we may be stuck doing so when we get a minivan soon. Have kid #6 on the way. Oldest stays with her father, so we have to have 7 seatbelts and the Lumina isn't going to cut it. We're trying to work with the selling dealer to trade up, but they're only offering $600 versus the $1900 we owe, and that's wrong. Hoping to sell the Lumina outright to someone willing to wait while the lien is released from the title. I'm sure we can get $1900 for it at the very least, and start fresh on the minivan, whether it's from the same BHPH lot or not. Some BHPH lots are horrible. I know of one lot on the south side of town who has GREAT cash prices on their cars. One example would be a car we looked at back in February. Gray 1999 Chevy Lumina, 130K, cash price was $2799. Sounded great and if we could have financed that with half down and that price, we were all for it. But the finance price was $5799!!! They insisted on making an extra $3000 over an 18 month note instead of taking half now and 4 or 5 months at $300 a month. They would have had their money in much less time our way, and there is no reason to mark up a car to double the asking price to allow financing. And some BHPH lots are great, like the lot we bought my wife's Lumina from. No ridiculously priced sleds, no major mechanical gremlins, and they didn't even check her credit (it's BAD, and mine is even worse!!!). We've been able to pay by cash or check. I do wish they'd offer credit card payments so we could call in our payment like I did with my other BHPH Lumina that got repo'd.
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