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Re: financing [devond] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: devond (Jun 08, 2006 1:14 pm)

hmmm... well I agree with you "sort of" about throwing money away on a depreciating assest, but...... you need to drive, and it takes about 10k to get a decent reliable vehicle - you could drive a Hyndia Accent however - and so I don't think that spending 10k on a depreciating asset is "throwing it away". I look at it like an appliance. You buy a toaster for $15 dollars use it till it breaks and then buy a new one. You buy a T.V. for 200 bucks, it breaks in a few years and you buy a new one. A car I view almost the same way, although if it breaks I will definately not just run out and buy another - it depends on what breaks and how much I will have to spend to keep it road worthy.
 
Right now I own a vehicle with 100K on it. By the time it was all said and done I paid about 17K for it. I financed it for 5 years 4 years ago, and paid it off in 3. I think the original price was 16K, but with added interest I think it came to about 17K. These are rough numbers here, I really don't know. Anyway, my point is, I have now put over 75K miles on it in the last 4 years (it had 25K when I bought it). I have had a few things go wrong, but all I think I have only spent about $500 in repairs in the last 4 years and 75K miles. I am about to spend another 1-200 in repairs next week. This is not including oil changes and tires and brakes of course. Anyway, my point is, I plan to drive this vehicle till the wheels practically fall off. I could be theoritcally driving it another 4 or 5 years putting hopefully the total mileage close to 200K. That would be nice. If I can get that much out of the vehicle, I would consider that original 17K money well spent. Sure the vehicle probably won't be worth much more than 1000 by the time I am done with it, but I sure was able get it's worth out of it....
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Re: Depreciating asset [steine13] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: steine13 (Jun 08, 2006 5:49 pm)

Also I might dare say as I don't mean to offend - but if you can save 2K a month, why not save the 10K over the next 5 months to get 10K down payment and pay off the rest of the 5K over the next year? That would certainly start rebuidling your credit.
 
Or is the 15K car not a Mercedes and therefore you don't want to be seen in that particular car? I mean even the above mentioned Taurus would do you well. It's cheap, reliable, and will help you rebuild credit. It aint a flashy car, or a "cool" car, but what's more important? Looking cool in a borrowed Mercedes or, or having a solid credit history that you worked hard to build?
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now that we're off topic... by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Now that we are way off topic of the BHPH dealers, I will try and get back on topic....
 
There are a ton of them here in PHX Az. I'm not quite sure I would trust them and I have always had a bad feeling about them. I have never had an experience with one, so I don't know. The last 3 cars I have purchased have been through dealerships - one was used sight unseen which I will never do again, but it was a family business and I was desperate. Even my uncle tried to tell me not to buy this particular vehicle but it was what I wanted so he got off the auction for me. My next vehicle was a scant 1 1/2 years later from a dealership that took the wreck I had previously bought off my hands. It was also used and is still on the road 4 years later and still going strong. My last vehicle was bought new 2 years ago, and after experiencing it once, I think I will buy used again next time around. It was overall a better experience - as long as I can find the vehicle I want which can be difficult when buying used.
 
I don't think I will ever see the need for me to use a BHPH place. But I do believe they fill a market need for those that can't get the financing from a dealership or a bank. Not that my credit is perfect, I have worked hard to get it to where it is now and had to pay a fairly high interest rate on the 2nd vehicle. (The first was financed through mom and dad and I just made the payments ), but after it was paid for it really helped the credit and when I bought the new one a couple years ago, the dealership didn't even flinch. The rate still wasn't fantastic, but it was better and they didn't have to hunt down a lender like the first time....
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Re: financing [devond] by qbrozen
Jun 09, 2006 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: devond (Jun 08, 2006 1:14 pm)

I just can't fatham throwing away $10,000 into a depreciating asset
 
Now I'm really lost. So you don't want to buy a car??
 
Or is your mental roadblock putting $10k down on a car? Cause, I don't know if anybody explained this, but you gotta pay for the car either now or in monthly payments. As a matter of fact, its sometimes BETTER to pay it now to avoid the interest, and considering your credit history, that would amount to ALOT of interest. So, pay $10k on a depreciating asset now? Or pay $15k over the next 3 years? Now you tell me which way is actually "throwing away" more money.
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Good cheap cars... by lemko
Jun 09, 2006 (5:54 am)
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...can be found and often the last place you look. I just bought a 1988 Buick Park Avenue with 81K on it for $1,295 last November and it is still going strong. I've driven it regularly since then and have never needed to put any money into it. The car was found at a tiny repair shop on a corner near my workplace. It turned out this car belonged to the brother of the owner who passed away last July. Now, if this car pukes a transmission or something, it goes off to the scrap dealer. However, it has already paid for itself in the time I've had it.
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Re: Good cheap cars... [lemko] by devond
Jun 09, 2006 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 09, 2006 5:54 am)

My big thing is throwing $10,000 OF my hard earned cash into a car. I guess I am just going to have to suck it up and do it thanks for the advice all
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Re: Good cheap cars... [devond] by bobst
Jun 09, 2006 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: devond (Jun 09, 2006 1:01 pm)

My advice:
 
Keep driving your fiance's Mercedes until you have enough saved to buy a nice car, like our Accord which cost $20800 OTD.
 
Then keep that car for a long time, like 8-10 years.
 
Yeah, I know it feels strange to write a check for $20800, but I think it is the right thing to do.
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Re: Good cheap cars... [devond] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: devond (Jun 09, 2006 1:01 pm)

so you have a hard time throwing 10K of your hard earned cash into a car but... you have no problem driving your fiance's Mercedes that either she/he (you never mentioned gender so I want to be PC ) or her/his parents paid probably at least 3 times that with thier hard earned cash? And they don't even get to enjoy it? I think there is something wrong with that picture. I will put your words you said back into your mouth... suck it up, take the advice that has been given and get your own set of wheels that you can be proud to say you own.
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Re: financing [devond] by snakeweasel
Jun 13, 2006 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: devond (Jun 08, 2006 1:14 pm)

that $7,000 is taxed so my actual take home pay is about $4,000.
 
That can't be right, $7K a month after Federal withholding would be about $5,550, add $500 for social security and you should have over $5,000 less any state tax withholding which should only be maybe 2-300.
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Re: financing [snakeweasel] by british_rover
Jun 13, 2006 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 13, 2006 8:10 am)

You dont know if he contributes to a HSA or 401k though. You also don't know what state he lives in. I wish CT only took 300 bucks a month in state income tax.

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