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Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma, Car Comparisons, Truck
#567 of 1446 Re: Telescoping steering wheel [toykick]
Oct 02, 2005 (5:17 pm)
Sorry I *swear* I saw 20MPG on the 2005 stickers. *shrugs*
Anyway, simply put, I felt like the Nissan pulled away much harder with a lot less drama. And you can say it didn't drop in power...because it never had that much to begin with. Has Nissan had to (or going to) retest their numbers?
And with the cabin noise, have you spent any time at highway speeds in a new Frontier and a Tacoma back to back? The Fronteir is like a vault at 65MPH. The Toyota was very loud. I don't know if it was wind coming over the side mirrors or what, but it was unpleasant if I had the radio off. I don't need a decibel meter to tell me which is louder or quieter.
And I have no beef against Toyota. I have an '05 Highlander in my garage right now and had a Camry with 135,000 miles on it before that. I *REALLY* wanted to like the new Taco's, but aside from the long bed option they have absolutely nothing on the Nissan.
They got one upped plain and simple. As for reliability, we'll just see what happens. There have been quite a few complaints about a bunch of nagging problems from 'Taco owners. Nissan isn' without it's faults either(brake rotors being the primary problem). But the VQ engine is a very solid engine with years of reliability behind it. Nissan as a company is also pretty good. Something that I'd certainly not be scared of.
#568 of 1446 05 frontier and 05 tacoma
Oct 02, 2005 (5:46 pm)
I have researched both trucks extensively and test driven both as well and realized that the two are fairly equal in performance and quality. However, after test driving them both, I find myself leaning towards the Frontier. I preferred the ride, the handling, and the look. And after talking to more than one saleman on our local Toyota lot, I was left with the strong impression that they were unwilling to dicker - pay the m.s.r.p. or do without. The Nissan dealer I talked to was, to say the least, less smug. I'm starting to believe that Toyota is getting too big and mighty. Come time to buy my next vehicle ( to replace the 98 Sienna ) the Frontier is definitely the front runner. Thankyou Mr. Ghosn!
#569 of 1446 Re: Telescoping steering wheel [toykick]
Oct 02, 2005 (6:06 pm)
First let me say that I think the Tacoma is a very nice truck and I considered one when
I bought my Frontier. That being said I take issue with you on the quality being much
less in the Frontier than in the Tacoma.
I am not sure what your definition of quality is, but I did not see that much difference in the two trucks when I was looking at them. When the interior is considered there are
quite a few that think the Tacome is far superior. Maybe it is just my poor taste but I
actually prefer the Frontier interior.
When I look at reliability Consumer Reports does not show that much difference in the two. In 2004 Tacoma was much better than average right down the list. In 2004 the
Frontier was rated better than average in only 4 areas; electrical,suspension,brakes, and body integrity.
In 2003 Tacoma again had much better than average in all categories, but body in-
tegrity where it rated an average. The Frontier had a better than average rating in
body integrity and body hardware. I would call that a wash.
Since reliability is one of the most important things to me I don't see much difference in the two. These figures are on an average so as close as they are you could get a good one or bad one from either manufacturer just by the luck of the draw.
I have had 8 Datsuns/Nissans over the years and I have never had a bad one. I have had 2 Toyotas, a 2000 Solara which my wife is currently driving and a 1969 Crown which I bought new.
The Solara is one of the best cars I have owned and we have done only normal maintenance on it in the 5 years we have been driving it. On the other hand I kept
the Crown less than a year and it spent more time in then shop than on the road.
Like I said, you can get a bad car from any manufacturer just as you can an excellent car. I think that when two trucks are as good as these, they are both worth taking a chance on.
#570 of 1446 Re: Telescoping steering wheel [2005lekc]
Oct 02, 2005 (6:45 pm)
I am another driver that prefers the Frontier interior to the Tacoma's. The centre console in the Toyota looks out of place- almost as if though it was borrowed from a sedan. As far as " quality " is concerned, the Tacoma may be one step up with some of the interior materials used, but not significantly.
Keep in mind that these two trucks are of new design for 05 and should not necassarily be compared with past vehicles as far as reliability goes.
I have faith in both these companies.
#571 of 1446 Re: 05 frontier and 05 tacoma [driver56]
Oct 02, 2005 (7:30 pm)
Maybe there are regional differences, but the local Toyota dealership gave me an initial quote which was right about where I thought they would end up. They were very nice but not high pressure. I was happier with the experience than I was with the one getting my wife her Baja.
I bought a 2005 Tacoma Double Cab 4x4 long bed. The length does take some getting used to for someone coming from a B3000 regular cab for sure.
I hope in 6, 7 years, I think of it as a good purchase, and I certainly hope the same holds true for the Frontier buyers as well. May we all be happy with our trucks!
#572 of 1446 Re: 05 frontier and 05 tacoma [dockeen]
Oct 02, 2005 (8:03 pm)
No doubt there are regional differences....our local dealership just may have attitude. I'm glad you had a pleasant experience and may we all.
The Tacoma is quite a big step up from the B3000 in many ways so enjoy.
Time will be the best judge of the choices we make. Enjoy your new purchase!
#573 of 1446 Re: Telescoping steering wheel [time2]
Oct 02, 2005 (8:31 pm)
lol read back when i told you what this forum is called...
Well like you guys said time will tell... Nissan improved a lot this year on JD powers but so did other manufacturers... Whats really weird to me is how Hondas luxury brand is having more issues then HONDA...
#575 of 1446 Re: 05 frontier and 05 tacoma [driver56]
Oct 02, 2005 (9:48 pm)
Just to let you guys know answer me this who won the motor trend truck of the year? And Wat do u see more out on the streets? Yeah the early model tacomas have issues but hey no one is perfect. I perfer drum brakes over disc for one reason only drum last longer. The tacoma in my opinon looks better, but the frontier looks nice. Interior wise have you guys seen a tacoma with the trd seat cover looks slick. I own a 05' tacoma pre runner v6 trd package.And i love the truck. One issue i had was the windshield was not installed right i got alot of road noise even humming. Got it replaced truck is quiet. So probably that guy that compared both froniter and tacoma and said frontier was quieter was probably cuz the tacoma wasnt built right. As in power wise i feel the tacoma is punchy off the start and in passing on hwy is exellent. As far as mpg i get 325 on regular 89 octane and 335 on 91 oct. And i have a heavy foot. i love to push it. My tacoma has 14k miles no porblems at all. From a toyota owner i give the tacoma the edge. But it all comes down to what the buyer likes more. Both trucks are awesome. Great job on both companies.
#576 of 1446 frontier & tacoma
Oct 03, 2005 (1:49 pm)
Albeit professional, Motor Trend's opinion is just that. Many other professionals have their opinions and they never agree all the time. So what is it? Keep an open mind and educate yourself and then make your own. You've got to love the competition Nissan and Toyota have created ; two solid companies producing good quality vehicles. This alone can do nothing but good for us all. That said, I believe Ford, G.M., Chrysler have decent products to offer. The bar has been raised!