Last post on Nov 08, 2010 at 11:40 AM
You are in the Toyota Tacoma
What is this discussion about?
Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma, Car Comparisons, Truck
#501 of 1446 Re: Frontier/Tacoma - Both good [boone88rr]
Sep 23, 2005 (10:19 am)
Well said, I did look at the Tacoma when I bought my Frontier. I honestly did not see very much difference between the two for the type of driving and hauling that I do.
My wife drives a 2000 Toyota Solara and it is the best car I have ever owned. For
that reason I was leaning toward the Tacoma , but I had a heck of a time trying to figure out the option packages they offered. The salemen were not much help with that
The real clincher was the price difference. I was trading in a very clean low miles Frontier XE KC. Nissan offered me a $6000 better deal than Toyota.
I do like the looks of the Frontier better, but that is personal taste and there are just as many that prefer the Tacoma.
My only exception to your post is that I do like the metal bed better than the composite
bed. Probably just my age telling on me. I feel that you are probably correct with the statement that Nissan will go that route in time.
I do not worry about rust in the bed as I had a 1977 Datsun KC for 24 years and it
hauled a lot of stuff. There was some rust on the sides of the truck, but never any in the bed area. That was a heck of a good truck now that I think about it.
Let us all enjoy our trucks and smile when we meet on the road.
#502 of 1446 Re: Frontier/Tacoma - Both good [boone88rr]
Sep 23, 2005 (11:10 am)
Actually, I was sort of mocking (if unclearly so) all those who just put negative comments on the board.
Unfortunately, your response perpetuates excatly what you say is wrong with this board.
The stuff about the metal bed, fuel octane, etc... is what I consider to be over-debated.
Basically, my point is that both are good vehicles, as noted in the subject and the end of my post. There are good points and less-good points to each, but Tacoma or Frontier; a buyer should be pleased with either.
Things I like about the frontier:
Plenty of power, smooth, but still truck-ish ride, decent payload capacity, decent mileage (~20-21).
Dislikes: I think the tires on mine are a little cheap.
Best to all.
#504 of 1446 Re: Frontier/Tacoma - Both good [toykick]
Sep 23, 2005 (12:20 pm)
A CC 4x4 Frontier takes 22+ seconds to tow 4500 pounds 0-60 a DC 4x4 Tacoma takes 18+ seconds to tow 4500... the 4x4 tacoma has a little bit less ground clearance then the 4x4 Frontier, but the tacoma has a greater approach and departure angle then the frontier. you be the judge
#505 of 1446 Re: Frontier/Tacoma - Both good [toykick]
Sep 23, 2005 (1:06 pm)
Most of that is fact. Some of it is opinion.
I have read most of it before - very interesting. There is not much difference in the two, based on only those links, IMHO.
For me, though, a steel bed was preferred, and I wanted a more basic truck. I have a 6-spd, 4x4, x-cab (King cab) with ABLS and bed liner, so the extensive options were not really a factor. Also, to get the few features I wanted, it would have cost me about $3,000 more for the Toyota, as they are packaged.
The infomation you post will undoubtedly be valuable to people reading this to decide between these two trucks. Some magazines/web-sites do feel the frontier is the better choice. Some see the Tacoma as better.
I'd sacrifice a few seconds off of my 0-60 time towing 4500 lbs for $3000 bucks. Both vehicles are more than capable of towing that weight with little difficulty.Rarely would one be racing with that load behind them. Really, though comparing 0-60 on a pickup; maybe if the difference were 2 or 3 seconds (not towing), it'd be more of a factor, but both are >8 seconds. I think that is pretty good. Lots of cars can't do that. How quick does a pickup need to be?
The quality of mine seems to be pretty good, though I have only had it for 6500 miles.
I respectfully maintain that either is a good choice. They are the top two options in this class of truck.
#506 of 1446 Re: Frontier/Tacoma - Both good [toykick]
Sep 23, 2005 (1:28 pm)
The crash tests are great. First of all, I would much rather have a leg injury than to suffer a head injury. The pictures are very good if you look at them in detail. It is very intesting how in the Taco, the tire went flat, and the wheel either turns or bends (by luck or design?) and goes back into the wheel well (where there is more space) and not going into the cabin at all, sparing the leg. When you look at the Frontier, the tire stays inflated and goes directly back (not much space) forcing the the contents on the lateral side of the cockpit to be forced into the legs.
As far a JD power: http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/ratings/vehicles/FindJdAwardsResults.jsp
Also, when looking at kellybluebook's website, they have 90 day quality results from JD power showing a huge dropoff vs the 04 Taco. They don't have anything on the Frontier. But they also have a cost of ownership site favoring the Taco. Just more wood for the fire.
#508 of 1446 Re: Frontier/Tacoma - Both good [centralcal]
Sep 23, 2005 (2:16 pm)
you should check out the government tests... the Head Injury Criterion is a lot lower for the tacoma then it is for the frontier... 406 for the tacoma and 636 for the frontier... but then again these tests are done on a flat concrete wall... while the High way crash tests are done offset and at above 40 mph...
#509 of 1446 PREFERENCE
Sep 24, 2005 (11:31 am)
I have owned a 2001 Tacoma and currently drive a 2003 Frontier. I was amazed to see that the Frontier was better as a daily use truck. Its been trouble free and was thousands less. I'm not the only one that feels the Frontier is a better daily use truck. Car and Driver or Motor Trend magazines had a comparison on the last model Tacoma and Frontier. The Frontier came out as a better truck for city/highway commuters.
Anyway, I won't get into a drawn out discussion on my Tacoma problems. I will say this, to many people are using Toyota's past glory to justify its higher price and vehicle preference. My Tacoma was a partial lemon and the higher price did not solve that issue. Is the Toyota a bad truck? No. Would I consider a new Tacoma? No. I have two main reasons: 1. My past experience with the Tacoma. 2. A Tacoma out fitted to my requirements doesn't fit in my garage. The 2005 Frontier is better when I factor in past experience, the price and it fits in my garage. Plenty of folks out their use their garage as storage but I actually like my vehicles in the garage.
#510 of 1446 Re: PREFERENCE [goose]
Sep 24, 2005 (1:46 pm)
Interesting problem goose. I've never heard that before. One vehicle at 208" does not fit but the 205" truck does? Or is it that extra 1 inch in height, or 2 inches in width? That's one magical garage.