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Re: Tacoma vs. Frontier [djwtarheel] by tsikes
Jan 14, 2005 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: djwtarheel (Jan 13, 2005 4:55 pm)

Tarheel, thanks for all the insight. This really helps me. I'll keep in touch once I get my new Tacoma. Tsikes
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For what it's worth... by 210delray
Jan 15, 2005 (6:09 pm)
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...I have a '98 Nissan Frontier 2-wheel drive 4-cylinder, 5-speed manual regular cab truck that's a lot more basic than what you all seem to be buying nowadays! It has only 46,000 miles, because I use it primarily for commuting and light hauling around town. However, we also take it to the beach in the spring and fall, so my wife and I can ride our bicycles there. I'd much rather carry the bikes in the truck bed than hanging off the back of our Camry sedan!
 
It has been VERY reliable - the sole problem was a faulty (leaking) coolant hose clamp that the dealer failed to fix on 2 tries, but my favorite independent shop fixed properly. NO other problems. (I would have done the clamp myself, but it was in a very hard-to-access location.) There was a "service campaign" (recall) for a faulty A/C line bracket early on, which the dealer took care of, but I've never had any actual A/C problems.
 
Since I have both a Toyota and a Nissan, I have no particular bias toward one or the other, so I think you can't go wrong with either the new Frontier or Tacoma.
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Re: For what it's worth... [210delray] by centralcal
Jan 15, 2005 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 15, 2005 6:09 pm)

Glad to hear a long time Nissan owner without problems. This is my first Nissan purchase, but a lot of my friends have had PF, Altima, Maxima, Xterra's. They really never had any problems that I was aware of. JD Power looks about the same between the 04 Taco and 04 Frontier. Cost of ownership is higher because of depreciation. Sounds like some people are leaning toward Taco because of reliability, but to me it seems the Frontier has as good of record as the Taco. Does anyone have a reliable source of quality other than "I have a friend who had a friend, who had problems"? Just wondering where everyone gets their information on quality. A new post on the Taco forum now with paint problems now, I hope Nissan did a better job than Toyota this time. I do not want a leaky truck, with a noisy air blower that rattles and the paint comes off.
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Re: For what it's worth... [centralcal] by tacofan4life
Jan 17, 2005 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: centralcal (Jan 15, 2005 6:55 pm)

Sorry but I never said "I have a friend who had a friend, who had problems"
I know he has had these problems because I was the one out there until 2:00am helping to fix the clutch problem and replace the power window motor. I was also the one that picked him up at the dealer when he dropped his truck off to get the AC fixed since that happened when the truck was still under warantee.
I have noticed that the Nissan cars don't have any problems like that so maybe Nissan will start putting that quality into their trucks!
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Re: For what it's worth... [tacofan4life] by centralcal
Jan 17, 2005 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: tacofan4life (Jan 17, 2005 11:42 am)

I hope so as well. It has me worried that the Taco has had such problems. Really didn't mean to be sarcastic, but outside of JD Power, consumer report (which seems extremely biased), where do you find good quality data on reliability?
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Re: For what it's worth... [centralcal] by tacofan4life
Jan 17, 2005 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: centralcal (Jan 17, 2005 2:26 pm)

I went to the JD Power site and didn't see any info on the 05 frontier or Tacoma.
As for reliablilty I am going by past experience of owning multiple and knowing people that have owned Nissan trucks. Also the resale value of a Toyota is a lot higher than any other vehicle so that says a lot about their reputation. 10 years ago Toyota had a bigger edge over the rest of the auto companies but now days it is a lot closer. Even still I think Toyota still has a slight edge... Just my opinion. I am just speaking from past experience.
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Re: For what it's worth... [tacofan4life] by centralcal
Jan 17, 2005 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: tacofan4life (Jan 17, 2005 6:22 pm)

I was comparing 04 models. Only thing you can do for now. I would tend to agree that Toyota holds and edge in both resale (big advantage) and reliability. I am more just frustrated that Toyota doesn't offer a lot of amenities with the Taco. Hopefully they will lose some sales because of this and upgrade the options.
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my thoughts by stephen1
Jan 18, 2005 (6:54 am)
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I do like the Toyotas. I've owned a couple and currently have one to trade in on whatever truck I decide on. I finally saw an 05 Frontier crew cab this past weekend and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. I like the looks, impressive tie down rack system in the bed, factory spray in bed liner, and price. Everything appeared to be much improved from the previous models which are also on the lot. I can now say that the Frontier is in the running for my next truck purchase. I'm a little disappointed with some of the quality issues with the new Tacoma but who knows, the Frontier will probably have its own issues. I'll have to see how the Nissan drives. Not real impressed with the wind noise of the new Tacoma. I realize that Toyota will probably hold a higher resale. But as mentioned before, you pay more up front and you get more when you sell it - so its a wash. One of my factors may be my Toyota trade. My local Toyota dealer has been very generous in the past when I have traded in a used Toyota for a new one. Will have to see how it goes...
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Re: my thoughts [stephen1] by xwesx
Jan 18, 2005 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: stephen1 (Jan 18, 2005 6:54 am)

My local Toyota dealer has been very generous in the past when I have traded in a used Toyota for a new one. Will have to see how it goes...
 
Rewarding customer loyalty? Smart move on the dealer's part because he'll make money on both the rigs anyhow and is likely guaranteeing not only a future purchase from you, but also free references!
 
This could also work in your favor with the Nissan dealer, though. If you get to the point of negotiating a purchase, you can just let the dealer know that you are a repeat-buyer of Toyotas and it will take a little extra incentive to win your business. The dealer knows how much he can make off the trade so I wouldn't be afraid to push him a little... Of course, if he doesn't budge, maybe that '05 Tacoma's wind noise is not such a big deal after all!
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2005 Tacoma vs Frontier... My experience (and decision) by mafan
Jan 21, 2005 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: stephen1 (Jan 18, 2005 6:54 am)

I "seriously" considered both trucks and went through great pains trying to decide on which one to go with. I actually took each one on three separate test drives (one in the city, one on the highway and one when it was raining). Here is what I found (obviously, this is purely subjective based on my opinion):
 
The three main pros for the Frontier are:
- Frontier has a more powerful engine. I have seen multiple 1/4 times posted for each truck and sometimes the Tacoma is within 1/10 second and other times it is a second behind (I think the differences were probably street vs off-road test). Subjectively though... you can feel it. At low RPMs, the Frontier is just quicker (however, the Tacoma feels quicker at higher RPM).
 
- Bed tie-downs. While both have movable rail tie-downs, the Frontier has tracks in bed itself which is much more flexible.
 
- Value. For the exact same price (within $80), I could have gotten a 10-speaker 380 watt stereo, sunroof, roof rack, Stability control, Bed Extender, Hill Climb/Decent Assist and a locking rear differential.
 
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The three main pros for the Tacoma are:
- Hands-down better driving experience. Handling was better, felt more stable on the road, absorbed bumps better (both Tacoma and Frontier had off-road packages), better transmission, etc. Note that, while the Frontier felt quicker, the Tacoma was no slouch either and actually felt like it had more punch on the highway (versus a standing start) than the Frontier.
- Exterior design. Frontier looks nice, but the Tacoma IMHO just outshines it in this category.
- Undeniable reputation for Quality and Reliability
 
However, the deal breaker (on behalf of the Tacoma) was:
- Better interior design, comfort and room. If I am going to be spending a large amount of time in a cabin I want it to be comfortable, nice and ergonomically sound... seats in the Tacoma offer MUCH more support, dash is nicer, more overall room (especially in rear seats), placement of center storage was better (offered better armrest). The interior design of the Frontier is unimpressive (which surprised me for Nissan).
 
While both trucks are excellent, I decided on the 2005 Tacoma Double Cab Sport 4x4

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