Last post on Nov 08, 2010 at 11:40 AM
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Nissan Frontier, Toyota Tacoma, Car Comparisons, Truck
#1442 of 1446 Re: Frontier vs Tacoma [onoffroad] SAME experience
Aug 03, 2010 (2:31 pm)
Compared Tacoma and Frontier. Low-Mid range priced Tacoma or Fully Loaded LE Frontier was the choice.
It was no comparison. Power - Frontier, Style - Frontier, Creature comforts - Frontier.
First trip with Truck averaged 20+ mpg on hilly highway driving. Roof rack holds canoe, sunroof feature a plus, leather seats and adjustable seats all out sold Toyota model.
We are neighbors to the Toyota dealer 1 mile away and visited often to try to make a deal. They kept calling back offering "USED" Toyota Trucks with 30,000 miles. We made an ONLINE purchase at the Nissan Dealership and have yet to visit the dealer. The salesperson drove the truck to our house and drove away our trade. This service can't be beat.
We purchased the NEW 2010 Frontier LE 4x4 Crew Cab loaded for the same price as the "VERY USED" Tacoma's and are very pleased with our decision.
Towing is great, power is great, acceleration is great, comfort great, Nissan Dealer (Abeloff) was great.
#1443 of 1446 Frontier Rolls Back
Nov 08, 2010 (11:40 am)
In July I purchased a new 2010 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X4 replacing my 2001 Frontier. No complaints there- just wore out. But with the new purchase I quickly discovered that when stopped on a hill, while in drive, the vehicle rolls backwards. It will similarly roll forward if in reverse and stopped when backing up.
I now know there is a “Hill start assist” that allows the driver to stop on an incline, release the brake and not roll back for two seconds.” See manual p.5-37. But after two seconds the vehicle rolls as if in neutral and will roll backwards unimpeded. Some assist. As effective as the Emperor’s New Clothes.
Unaware of this “assist” I reported the problem to the dealership (who I have worked with satisfactorily for 20 years) and I was told to bring it in. After their review – of which the tech guy tested another new vehicle and discovered it rolled back as well - I was informed that “the vehicle was operating normally.” The Service Manager told me that when on a hill I would have to “two pedal it.”
I contacted the Nissan North America consumer affairs department and asked “Why does Nissan think that a transmission design that has their vehicles rolling backwards (or forwards) when on hills is acceptable? Why is there not a bright light warning to consumers/owners?” After three months I am waiting for an answer.
My frustration is that I wasn’t informed prior to the purchase – and further that the condition is acceptable. Whereas you mention it to anybody and the response is “That’s not right.”
Consequently I have tested a new Toyota Tacoma. It rolls back too.