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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [nmk] by qbrozen
Mar 23, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: nmk (Mar 23, 2007 7:22 am)

i think the "it won't fit" excuse is just that ... an excuse. If they stick by that story, it keeps them from ever having to actually try. If audi can fit a V8 under the hood of an A4, a V6 can fit in the CX7.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [qbrozen] by audia8q
Mar 23, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 23, 2007 7:28 am)

so I ask the question...why and how will adding a V6 benefit mazda?
 
do the number work?? you have a totally different dynamic for crash testing, dot/epa certification, CAFE rating issues, marketing costs. Plus the engine must be outsourced at a higher cost than the current mazda sourced engine. It will cost millions to do all this... will a V6 increase sales without canabalizing another mazda or ford vehicle line enough to justity the costs?
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which one? by slippert
Mar 23, 2007 (8:32 am)
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which one?I'm leaning to the CX-7 vs. Marano. Any strong opinions from buyers who shopped both?
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [extech2] by defreitasm
Mar 23, 2007 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: extech2 (Mar 22, 2007 4:19 pm)

A V6 generally adds a significant amount to the price of the vehicle when compared to a 4. I'm not sure what the difference would be in the case of the CX-7 since we are talking about a turbo 4.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [audia8q] by qbrozen
Mar 23, 2007 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Mar 23, 2007 8:12 am)

so I ask the question...why and how will adding a V6 benefit mazda?
 
Beats me.
 
That's not my job.
my job, as a consumer, is simply to demand it. Its their job to figure out if they want to meet that demand. Plenty of other manufacturers have no problem offering 2 engines in their vehicles.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [qbrozen] by audia8q
Mar 23, 2007 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 23, 2007 9:56 am)

I don't know either...but I guess if it made financial sense they would offer it.
 
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [audia8q] by extech2
Mar 23, 2007 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Mar 23, 2007 12:35 pm)

When we bought our 2004 V6 Accord I was shopping for FX35, Cadillac SRX and Murano and Pilot. One drive in the Accord convinced me that it was quicker and more nimble than any of the others. We already had an Accord and we didn't need another one but I fell in love with the V6. My point is that if wouldn't be for the V6 we would have bought something entirely different. Turbo engines make their power by getting stressed to a much higher degree than a non-turbo motor and when the miles get close to the 100 K mark, they might need major work while the non-turbo motor could last another 3-4 years without the need for repairs.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [extech2] by wjbushsr
Mar 23, 2007 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: extech2 (Mar 23, 2007 1:58 pm)

Any engine without the proper maint. will fail.
To say that turbos fail after 100k miles is extremely erroneous, every diesel rig on the road has a turbo, these engines work on the same principal and don't fail at 100k, 200k or even 300k; most of them will get over a million miles before they're overhauled.
The reason Mazda went with the turbo 4 as opposed to the six was because of weight distribution; plain and simple... They could have opted to use a Rotary engine as well, but ultimately decided to go with a proven turbo four that has been used in the Mazda Speed 6.
Besides, the CX-9 has the six, as well as the Edge MKX and a host of other rides out there... the turbo four sets the CX-7 out from the pack... in more ways than one!
Zoom Zoooom
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [nmk] by ateixeira
Mar 26, 2007 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: nmk (Mar 23, 2007 7:22 am)

3- Whether the dynamics of the handling would change much is irrelevant.
 
I disagree with that 3rd one.
 
People chose a CX7 because of the Zoom Zoom factor. If the 3.5l V6 is a lot heavier it would make it nose heavy and spoil the fun factor.
 
My guess is the 3.5l V6 isn't even made in the same plant where the CX7 is assembled, so logistics would be costly and complex.
 
I give Mazda credit for not following the same path everyone else does.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [extech2] by aviboy97
Mar 26, 2007 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: extech2 (Mar 23, 2007 1:58 pm)

Turbo engines make their power by getting stressed to a much higher degree than a non-turbo motor and when the miles get close to the 100 K mark, they might need major work while the non-turbo motor could last another 3-4 years without the need for repairs.
 
That is pure speculation. Keep in mind, Mazda has built the 2.3L engine to withstand turbo charging. It has forged internal parts. Mazda has been turbo charging vehicles for years. The 88-92 Mazda MX-6 with the F2T engine was a great engine. Many still driving them with 200,000+ miles on them.
 
Mazda may have stumbled on something great here. Look at Acura, they have followed suit. Acura/Honda are not known for turbo charging...that says a lot.

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