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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [qbrozen] by ateixeira
Mar 22, 2007 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 22, 2007 8:46 am)

I wonder how much more the 3.5l V6 would weigh, though, and if that might upset the balance of the CX7.
 
Also, they look so much alike that some people can't tell them apart. I'm sure they're cross shopped more often than we might think at first.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [ateixeira] by audia8q
Mar 22, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 22, 2007 9:32 am)

Alot of folks come in with the intention of looking at both but once they see the size differences they almost always eliminate one or the other. The psycho graphics and demographics for each vehicle is very different...so far the buyers have been fitting the molds almost perfectly.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [ateixeira] by qbrozen
Mar 22, 2007 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 22, 2007 9:32 am)

Once you take the turbo components into account, the weight difference is probably less than 100 lbs. Heck, maybe far less.
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Nice to see some old names in here... by maltb
Mar 22, 2007 (10:31 am)
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As far as greater towing capacity in the CX-7goes, I wouldn't much more with the dynamics of that vehicle. When my boat goes out, it goes behind a larger vehicle.
 
Now if I were shopping for a CX-9, I'd want more than it is rated for (3,500).
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [qbrozen] by ateixeira
Mar 22, 2007 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 22, 2007 10:08 am)

You sure? So far all the vehicles that 3.5l goes in have been seemingly overweight. If it's the engine block that might upset the CX7's handling.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [ateixeira] by extech2
Mar 22, 2007 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 22, 2007 12:18 pm)

I think a CX-7 (or the Acura RDX) with a 6 cylinder engine would be just as quick or quicker, offering stronger low end response, with the same or only slightly worse gas mileage. For me the biggest benefit would be less complexity under the hood and a somewhat more reliable engine, plus the use of regular gas instead of the premium. I sure wish they'd make one.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [ateixeira] by qbrozen
Mar 23, 2007 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 22, 2007 12:18 pm)

Oh, I'm definitely not sure. I'm guessing. I have no idea how we would find out. I just know that, based on experience, engines don't make as big of a difference as you'd think when it comes to the weight of the car. For instance, a V6 accord is only 185 lbs more than a 4-cyl, and that's without any of that extra stuff that goes into having a turbo.
 
Even if its, lets say, 150 lbs more. That's less than the difference you'd find having an adult passenger.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [ateixeira] by nmk
Mar 23, 2007 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 22, 2007 12:18 pm)

I thought I had posted this previously, perhaps in another forum.
 
Somewhere I had read that the V-6 would present a number of problems.
1- It just wouldn't fit in the space available.
2- In order to accommodate this engine it would change the styling dimensions of a vehicle that we all admit is on the cutting edge of vehicles of this type.
3- Whether the dynamics of the handling would change much is irrelevant.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [nmk] by qbrozen
Mar 23, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: nmk (Mar 23, 2007 7:22 am)

i think the "it won't fit" excuse is just that ... an excuse. If they stick by that story, it keeps them from ever having to actually try. If audi can fit a V8 under the hood of an A4, a V6 can fit in the CX7.
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Re: Would the CX-7 be more attractive with a V-6? [qbrozen] by audia8q
Mar 23, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 23, 2007 7:28 am)

so I ask the question...why and how will adding a V6 benefit mazda?
 
do the number work?? you have a totally different dynamic for crash testing, dot/epa certification, CAFE rating issues, marketing costs. Plus the engine must be outsourced at a higher cost than the current mazda sourced engine. It will cost millions to do all this... will a V6 increase sales without canabalizing another mazda or ford vehicle line enough to justity the costs?

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