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To Fix Up or Trade Up, That is the Question

536 messages,  Last post on Jul 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM

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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [jipster] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 06, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (May 06, 2009 12:14 pm)

I drove a tank one time. I traded the driver for a spin in my 5 ton wrecker. It was great fun but there was no ammunition
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [maryh3] by bolivar
May 06, 2009 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: maryh3 (May 06, 2009 10:56 am)

My 1991 SHO had very nasty torque steer if you did try to launch it fast. Or even jump on the throttle in 1st or 2nd. The car would instantly jump sideways and you better be ready to saw away at the steering wheel to get it back into your lane.
 
The car did have some maintenance items. It also had only a 12/12,000 factory warranty, probably just before manufactors went to the 36/36,000 warranty. So, I was happy I had purchased an extended warranty. But actually, even with a few 'issues', I think I only broke even on what the repairs cost verse the cost of the warranty. But, it still had over a year left on the warranty, and I strongly suggested to the guy I sold it to that he should pay the $50 transfer fee so he could have about 18,000 mile and 18 months of warranty on the car.
 
Overall, the car was very nice. The interior looked great. Ours was black, and looked nice outside until the paint started to evaporate off. It was very quiet and stable at speed. I actually compared it to a Lexus - until you slamed a door - then it sounded like a Ford. But driving the car - it was great.
 
Problems - various things failed, I actually don't remember what at this time - AC clutch failed and leaked, motor mount loose, etc.
The biggest problem was the clutch, an even bigger problem on the 1989 models. It just required more and more effort to push as the car aged. We drove it from the midwest to NJ area one summer, hitting some extended traffic slowdowns on the trip, and the clutch was terrible, inching along in trafffic with constant upshifts/downshift with high effort for miles and miles of construction zones, heavy traffic, etc. This trip made me decide the car had to go.
 
And, this motor had no torque at all. To get any speed, you had to really get it into the higher rpms, or it was dead. At 3,500rpm the valves on the secondary set of intake runners opened, and the engine came to life. But cruising on a two lane, even with a long passing opening, you better drop down from 5th to 4th, or you would take forever to pass at 65mph. Several times at more moderate speeds, like 45 or 50, I got the car into a place where it was almost dangerous because it had no acceleration available in the gear I had it in - you had to downshift, at times more than one gear, and go to full throttle to get it to move. And then the torque steer jumped up. You just can't beat big iron, high torque motors for these situations. And, this is why I don't really like to drive a manual, you have to be thinking about what you need to be doing with the gears and throttle all the time - with an automatic you just mash to throttle and let the auto tranny decide how far down it can downshift.
 
It was fast. I can attest to 135mph and this was not topped out.
 
A car that was nice to own, but I was happy to sell.
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [Mr_Shiftright] by jipster
May 06, 2009 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 06, 2009 12:59 pm)

It was great fun but there was no ammunition
 
Well, of course. Without any ammunition, the marketabillity of the things go waaaaaayyyy down.
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [jipster] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 06, 2009 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (May 06, 2009 2:06 pm)

Tell me about it. 3 gallons to the mile, too. You can knock down trees real easy though, so that was some consolation. I have been around them when they fire, and they are freakin' LOUD. War movie soundtracks don't do it justice.
 
I would certainly run a CARFAX on any used tank. You just don't know where they've been.
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [Mr_Shiftright] by fezo
May 06, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 06, 2009 2:18 pm)

I remember being in a tank when I was kid. This would have been very late 50s or early 60s. The one thing I could say for it was that it was certainly claustrophobic. Are they still that cramped? I would guess so.
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [fezo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 06, 2009 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 06, 2009 2:22 pm)

I don't know about the new ones. Generally army vehicles do not cater to human comfort. I certainly would want no part of one during a war on a modern battlefield. It's getting dangerous out there.
 
People buy up old ones and rent them to movies, I guess. Some big businesses like that down in L.A.
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [Mr_Shiftright] by fezo
May 06, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 06, 2009 2:30 pm)

The thing that struck me about the tank at the time and has stayed with me is that I was somewhere say about 7 - 9 years old. I felt cramped. I can't imagine a full grown man in there.
 
I have no idea if they still do this kind of thing but they used to open up the local military base on Armed Forces Day and show off what they had. Certainly convinced me this wasn't where I was heading....
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Re: 1995 Taurus SHO Body Damaged [fezo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 06, 2009 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 06, 2009 2:33 pm)

Speaking of "fix up or trade in", There was this truck called a Tank Retriever. You picked up broken tanks and took 'em back for repair. This was a BIG truck, much larger than the 5000 gallon tanker I used to drive.
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Re: 03 Acura TL 85000 miles [Mr_Shiftright] by oldfarmer50
May 06, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 30, 2009 3:07 pm)

"...You might find a '57 Chevy but it will have a Russian engine in it, a radiator from a tractor, carved painted wood for trim and 25 sheet metal patches in the floor..."
 
So, I've driven worse.
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Re: 03 Acura TL 85000 miles [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 06, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (May 06, 2009 3:52 pm)

Well then, you're one of the few, the brave, the chosen! Good for you.

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