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Purchasing at the End of Your Lease

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Re: The biggest issue I see to debate [driftracer] by kirstie_h HOST
Dec 14, 2004 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: driftracer (Dec 14, 2004 5:54 am)

Since I moved Theresa's post from Ask the Hosts into this discussion, let's try to get the information here - I hate to shuffle her all over the forums, especially as a new member! (we can ask Terry to make a special guest appearance)
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I'll drop a note to Terry by driftracer
Dec 14, 2004 (6:09 am)
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if she will drop all the info on the Bravada...
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by stickguy
Dec 14, 2004 (6:44 am)
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I look at it this way: at the end of the lease, you need another car, and your off-lease mobile is just another used car (but at least you know the history and how it was treated). So, look at the residual/fees, and determine if you a) want this car, and if so b) what it is worth.
 
If it isn't a good deal, find a different car. If the price is right, buy it.
 
of course, this assumes you want to own an older car. From what I've seen, many lease people prefer to move right on into a new lease.
 
Actually, this raises another point: some manufacturers (I know Honda did at one point) give you a deal if you re-lease (no orig fee or something), just to keep you in the "family".
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Buying Your Leased Car by Car_man HOST
Dec 14, 2004 (10:07 am)
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There is an informative article on this very subject in the Advice section of Edmunds.com. Here is a link to it for those of you who are interested: Buying Your Leased Car.
 
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teresa72 by michaell
Dec 14, 2004 (2:06 pm)
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I've done this before ... a few (more) questions:
 
1) who did you lease through? If GMAC, you might be able to secure pretty good financing terms if you decide to buy. We did that with our '99 New Beetle .. got 5.9% for 36 months, plus they threw in an extended warranty. Can't hurt to ask.
 
2) is there any visible damage? you say the truck is in good condition, but when you go to turn it in, that small crease on the drivers door and the cracked windshield and the almost used up tires will count against you. If you buy it, these things don't matter.
 
3) if you really, really like the truck, no reason to start over. As mentioned above, you might find some loyalty incentives to stay with GM -- or, alternatively, there might be some "conquest" incentives from another manufacturer.
 
Bottom line -- do the research.
 
Let us know how it all turns out.
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Lease buyout through dealer by steve18
Dec 17, 2004 (6:30 pm)
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I want to purchase my 02Accord which lease is about to end. I decided to work through the dealer from whom I had originally obtained the car. He ran the numbers and after I quizzed him on the monthly payment (which was higher to what I had calculated) it emerged that he had added on $800 to the residual owed to AHFC for "dealer fees" (processing/his time etc--this was in addition to the regular doc fees & licensing and reg fees).If I had not grilled him on his calculations I would never have known about this added charge.Is this normal dealer business practice?. I have decided to work directly with AHFC and obtain financing myself. Is their any risk you are aware of in dealing directly with AHFC to buy out the lease. Thanks
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Re: Lease buyout through dealer by Car_man HOST
Dec 19, 2004 (6:09 am)
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Hi steve18. One should always deal directly with the bank that they are leasing through and leave dealers completely out of the equation if they want to purchase their leased vehicle. The bank owns your vehicle, not the dealer. They are the ones that set its selling price. Your dealer, who knows that you are not going to purchase another vehicle from them in the near future because your are purchasing the one that you were leasing, is only going to try to profit somehow from your purchase.
 
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In order for the dealer to get involved... by isellhondas
Dec 19, 2004 (12:24 pm)
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The dealer must pay off AHFC. He would then resell the car to the owner as a used car.
 
In order to do that, any smart dealer would do a mechanical inspection to make sure it's in safe condition. If may need brakes, tires etc.
 
And, yeah, after doing all of that that dealer may feel the need for some profit.
 
Or the leasee can deal directly through AHFC and write them a check which is what almost always happens.
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Re: Lease buyout through dealer [Car_man] by steve18
Dec 19, 2004 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Dec 19, 2004 6:09 am)

Thanks Car_man. I arranged the finance myself with another bank and will send check to AHFC on Tuesday.
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Re: In order for the dealer to get involved... [isellhondas] by steine13
Dec 19, 2004 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 19, 2004 12:24 pm)

"The dealer must pay off AHFC. He would then resell the car to the owner as a used car."
  
Craig, we're all dancing around the real issue here.. which is price. As far as I know -- and from what you've told us -- AHFC does not negotiate buyout prices with their customers. This is really dumb when looking at individual deals, and probably really smart in the big picture, as it keeps their perceived value from sliding downhill like Fords... anyway, they will "deal" with someone in the end, 'cuz the car is worth what it's worth.... an I'm guessing they will deal with their dealers.
 
I was thinking really hard about leasing another Vibe, because they have big rebates AND inflated residuals on a good car. The salesman told me that they sometimes negotiate the buyout with GMAC, then add their 'pack' of $300 and resell it to the consumer. This could be a pretty good deal all around, and should work on a Honda as well -- by returning the car, the consumer has fulfilled his obligations, and by buying the car back from the dealer, he doesn't have to buy an unknown quantity.
 
But, like I said, the issue is whether the financial institution will negotiate.
 
BTW, on the Vibe: I can lease the twin to my '04 5speed for 24 months, and they'll give me a residual of $12k with 24k miles... which is hilarious, cuz a similar '03 would be worth in the $9s today... so yeah, they know it, and they'll deal...
 
-Mathias

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