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The time came to say sayonara to my Buick Losecerne CXS. I finally woke up and realized that the GM debacle was going to go wider and deeper and longer than anyone has owned up to. So rather than shoot myself in the foot once again (a court-martial offense), I decided to unburden myself of this heaving, vibrating hulk of an excuse for an automobile. I swapped it in on a 2008 Hyundai Azera Limited with the Ultimate Package. This Hyundai rides circles around the Buick (turning radius too) and drives like a Lexus ES350 at half the price. I did thoroughly research the car and found it to be highly rated by just about every reviewer which I read. As for the front end problem, it was resolved and any Azera with a build date after October 2007 was not having any of the difficulty which has been discussed in Edmunds and other sites as well. It cost me $118 to complete the transaction and a well spent $118 at that. The car handles, drives, and STEERS superbly. The Losecerne steered worse than an 18 wheeler with its gargantuan turning radius. And with the CXS and its wider wheels made this major flaw in the cars performance even worse. It was an unbelievable car to TRY TO drive. It was a nightmare what with its undulating and vibrating its way down America's highways and byways. And just a note to the contributor who maintains that there will be no decrease in the service locations for GM. Take a look at the abandoned buildings that were once thriving auto dealerships including their service areas. You will not see shuttered showrooms with thriving service areas alongside. The whole kit and kaboodle is shuttered and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Hence, you will have to arrange for service some place else if your dealer goes belly up thanks to a :Dear Dealer" letter from the General (Nuisance that is). So so long to this site and that poor excuse for a car that was once my 2007 Buick Losecerne CXS; I should have shot it and put it out of its misery. SemperFi
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Replying to: sgtdevlinusmc (May 16, 2009 7:00 pm) >drives like a Lexus ES350 at half the price You are aware the 350 is a Camry in drag.   so saying your Azera rides similar to one is not a compliment.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 17, 2009 4:41 am) The one we have is tomb quiet inside. It rides smooth and soaks up holes and bumps like they aren't there and for a big old boat it handles pretty good. While I wish it had a 5 or 6 speed auto, the 4 speed and the 3.9 V-6 are plenty powerful for me. Like, I think I noted before, I had to look up the 3.9 V-6, because it was so smooth, I thought it was a DOHC.....
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Replying to: bryangz (May 17, 2009 2:13 pm) And the OEM ties were too directional and causing it to track the rain grooves on the highway. A bit of humming and vibrating as a result. The fix is, well, different tires. OEM shocks/struts and tires and so on are almost always cheap junk no matter what brand you're buying these days. Then again, it's a fine car. I think people are just expecting their cars to be like a video game or bank vault these days. Go drive an old 1960s Mercedes and try to hear yourself think. BTW, you want 4 gears with a V8. The bigger the engine, the fewer gears you need and want. 1 - because you're not drag racing it. and 2: You're not going over 80-85mph anyways. Less shifting/smoother ride and more hp and torque as well, since it's generally in its power band driving around town. Cheaper to fix as well. Small engines, otoh, do require more gears.
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Replying to: plekto (May 18, 2009 11:52 am) The CX that I drive my mom around in is extremely quiet (it does have the ABS startup hum for a few seconds) and it rides smoothly with no vibrations. |
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I wondered about the fuel pump noise. I haven't heard a fuel pump on any of my GM cars while driving. The CXS is much better tired. That does cause road noise. I suspect the softer tires on the base models are more what I would like. I'm not sure about the power steering humming. If that is during turns when the pressure is higher doing the assisting, the hose is probably out of place and touching the firewall transmitting the vibration of the pump. Not right.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 18, 2009 5:28 pm) This is tires. Put the normal CX/all seasons on it - something with a bidirectional non-"rain" type pattern and watch it disappear completely. When you go in to get the tires "replaced" - replace them with lower cost and higher profile(same as on the CX) tires. My theory is that the newer cars aren't ANY different than before. It's that the makers have gone to silly lengths to make them quieter and smoother, so any small gremlins that you never noticed before suddenly worry all the yuppies. The Lucerne CXS is the quietest and most insulated Buick ever. After driving my 1990s LeSabre the the dealer (at the time - now sold, good car) and immediately testing the Lucerne CXS, the CXS was Mercedes refined and quiet. Cars are noisy, clattery, humming, buzzing, vibrating things by nature. We just forget. Really. Go drive an old VW Bug and you come out half deaf, sore, and feeling like you've been working out with your legs and arms compared to say, a bog standard Focus. Case in point - my 4Runner has injectors that are as noisy as bad lifters or a tapping valves. Really. It happens when they are over 10 years old or so. The engine is so noisy at anything over idle, though, that I don't hear it at all 90% of the time. But put a sewing machine engine out of a Civic in it and it would probably drive me nuts. Heh.
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Replying to: plekto (May 18, 2009 8:27 pm) The tires really make a difference. The standard leSabre has a General tire with high compliance to forces and very low rolling resistance. I always replace them with Michelins which are stiffer and give more road noise with long life treads. Current 60 profile on 225 X 16 inch wheels gives a more controlled steering reaction with the original SYmmetry by Michelin used on a lot of GM cars in 03. But when I replaced them with Harmony, they howl on certain concrete type road textures and a few other large pebble road mixes. But other times are quiet enough. I suspect a higher profile Harmony wouldn't do this on a 15 inch wheel on the same leSabre. I looked at a Sonata a couple years ago, and the model I'd want came with low profile tires on a large rim. Not what I wanted, both for noise and for replacement cost and life. Some of the automakers have really worked on minimizing the noises, like injectors, to help the quiet ambiance inside. Do I recall the Lucerne has layer side windows to help muffle sound?
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 19, 2009 3:52 am) |
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Replying to: sgtdevlinusmc (May 16, 2009 7:00 pm)
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