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| I have a 2006 CXS & would like to upgrade the headlights to an HID Xenon setup or at least a bulb upgrade to Sylvania Silverstars. It looks as though you can not replace any front end bulbs without dropping the front bumper clip (absolutely insane). If this is true, is there a shortcut or trick to accessing the front lights and is there a GM mechanic or lighting specialist out there that can direct or suggest a superior product and an appropriate route to take. I want lighting that is long lasting, trouble free, with an installation that is the least complicated and intrusive to the vehicle. Also, I'm in warranty to 2012 and want something that will not conflict with the wiring harness and cause any damage voiding the warranty. I'm in the Phoenix Metro area, so if anyone can recommend an auto lighting specialty shop or product, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! CXSROBB | |
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Replying to: 0to60in15mins (Oct 10, 2008 11:20 am) I ended up buying a 2009 Lucerne CX for my mom, with the 3.9 V-6. Having the 3.5 DOHC in my 2000 Olds Intrigue, I thought this was also an DOHC because it was so smooth and had plenty of pep. If you want a race car, then you want the V-8. But the 3.9 V-6 in the car I bought is no slouch. Mileage during the first tank of gas was 16.5 mpg. But considering that this was the first tank and my mom never drives more than 8 miles at a time.... |
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Well, here I sit boken hearted. I have just been asked to leave my dealer's service area by the owner of the dealership because I was "haranguing" his employees. What I was doing was asking for them to fix the vibration in my car - a 2007 Buick Lucerne CXS, no more and no less. Well, evidently I was way out of bounds with my request which was for them to get rid of the annoying vibration which occurs whenever the engine is doing 1500 rpms. Someone on this site said that this is lugging the engine. Well, just glance at your tach; you'll be surprised at just how often it is doing just that when driving. I also requested that they fix the tire pressure monitor which is dead in the water. Well, the owner the el presidente of the dealership in no uncertain terms told me to leave and that they would no longer work on my car. Gee, I wonder why they have a service department and why the car came wilth a warranty which the dealer is not honoring any more. He told me that he would set up an appointment for me at another dealership - my how kind of him. He should have ushered me out of the door when I got stuck with the car which he had driven for 6000 miles and that he knew darn well it was vibrating. His employees told me that he is a real nit picker so I know darn well that he had them trying to fix the vibration, but I guess that they couldn't then either. I accused him of covering up the defect in the car and he said he didn't care. I guess not; he already has my money. When I first arrived in the service area I was told by the service writer that he didn't think that they would work on my car because I had started a lemon law suit. I never knew that action allows the dealer to cease performing repair work on the car under the warranty. But, I guess all bets are off now with GM about to fall flat on their collective face. I never had this kind of problem with the dealer not being able to fix a problem and then just kicking the customer out of the dealership. But then, it is 2009 and all bets are off. At least I can enjoy watching GM crash and burn; they have brought this nightmare on themselves; it is just a shame that a lot of honest hard working people are being made to suffer as collateral damage from this debacle. Semper Fi
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In my current quest to unburden myself of this poor excuse of a car - the Vibrating Hulk of a Buick Lucerrne CXS (I wonder just what "CXS" means, hmmm??), I did a lot of auto research and testing. And, surprise, surprise, that new kid on the block (well, kind of) Hyundai has quite a nice car which rated an 8.3 in the Edmunds review versus the lowly 6.8 earned by the Buick Lucerne. I should have done my research a year ago ....Well, I think that I am going to TRADE UP FROM BUICK TO HYUNDAI!!! The Hyundai Azera Limited with the Ultimate package is head and shoulders above this Buick dionosaur - an old platform, with an old engine linked to an older transmission with halogen, yes halogen, headlights. I am surprise they don't still use kerosene lamps by golly. I have owned over 40 cars in my 73 years and I have to say that the worst of the lot is by far this %^%^%$% (excuse my language please) Buick Losecerne!!! I hope to unburden myself within the next day or so before its value drops any lower; it has already dropped $14,999 since last June. UNBELIEVABLE!!! Many of the dealers told me that I should get rid of the car before GM declares bankruptcy which they are definitely going to do in June - the one year anniversary of my dumb deal for which I blame myself - I should have known better. Whatever happened to "with age comes wisdom..." Duh on me. SemperFi P.S. If you see an 07 White Buick Lucerne CXS for sale with only 9000 miles on it, just keep walking....
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Replying to: sgtdevlinusmc (May 06, 2009 2:45 pm) Also make sure you fully understand Hyundai's warranty. They like to tout their 5yr/60K mile standard warranty (and 10yr/10K mile powertrain), but NOT everything is covered during the 5y/60K miles. There are numerous components that are only covered 3/36, and even some that only have 1/12 coverage. If you are buying used, you will not receive the 10/100 powertrain. Second, and subsequent owners, are only entitled to a 5/60 powertrain warranty. Resale value on Hyundai is no better than Buick. I just looked at a 2008 Azera Limited with only 7500 miles on it this past weekend (I had considered trading my '06 Impala). Price was $19K. Rumor has it the 2009 Azera will be the last year for the Azera. The Azera also uses halogen headlights. They may be projector beam units, but they are not HID's...just standard halogen bulbs. I found the Azera's interior to feel rather confining. The overall assembly quality and materials were not impressive. The center console creaked if I just touched it, and it felt very flimsy (and this was on a unit with only 7500 miles.) Leather quality was poor. Overall, it was a very disappointing experience. The interior was so unimpressive I never got around to actually driving the car. The dealer actually has 5 of these low mileage '08 Azera Limiteds on the lot and they have all been there for at least a month. I have owned 10 cars in the past 20 years, 5 of which have been GM vehicles. I used to be a GM fan, but my experience with my current '06 Impala has driven me away from GM in the future. My Impala is 3 years old and has 41,000 miles on it. It was $21K when I bought it new, but now I would be lucky to get $7,000 on a trade. My Impala has been the most trouble-prone vehicle I have ever owned (water pump failure, power steering issues, brake issues, steering shaft issues, peeling trim, numerous interior squeaks and rattles, etc.) I continue to look for a new vehicle, but it will not be a GM or a Hyundai. |
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Replying to: sgtdevlinusmc (May 06, 2009 2:30 pm) Have you checked to see who owned it initially and why they traded it? I would suspect the dealer hid the existing problem from you. It may have been bought back as a lemon previously. I'd find out what I had to do for a title check on the car, maybe an attorney that specializes. Another dealer might be able to check based on VIN to see if it was defective and traded back in. Their VIN check would show service attempts on the car. |
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Replying to: sgtdevlinusmc (May 06, 2009 2:45 pm) I brought it to a competing dealer, told them about it, they put their best mechanic on it, and w/in 5 MINUTES they had found a TSB on the Steering rack. They had it taken care of in one trip ! |
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Replying to: sgtdevlinusmc (May 06, 2009 2:45 pm) LOL. Good one. I just popped in. This is the first I've heard of the Lucerne having problems. I read Consumer Reports religiously and they have it on their recommended list. |
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| Got a "final" offer from GM to make me go away; it is $4000. A far cry from a buyback, eh what? My attorney's office is processing paperwork; however, I took the el presidente's advice and went to another dealership. The service manager sat in the car, started it up, and rev'd it up to 1500 rpms. Yep. Good old vibration right on cue. You could use the car for a sex toy (almost). He confimed that vibration is not normal; it is a definite problem in the engine; he will take it into his shop on Monday and attempt to correct the problem. I must pause here in this saga because up until now all of the GM people just couldn't seem to feel that this was a problem and the car was performing as designed LOL. Here was someone actually confirming that this is a problem. I kind of got the impression that the negotiations with GM were skewed by the Mr. Badwrenches who had worked on the car previously and was funneling bum info back to GM corporate HQ. I told the new service manager on my quest about all of the previous efforts to fix the problem and he kind of brushed them off saying that he would go ahead and contact GM on Monday and go from there. At this point I do not know where I stand with the $4K payoff. I am darn sure that I am not going to bend over for GM and let them shirk their responsibilities for repairing the car under their warranty. And I am considering backing off from the proposed $4k settlement in deference to having the engine problem corrected. This whole fiasco was the result of poor procedure on the part of the dealership's service people from the get go. This whole thing gets crazier and crazier. But then there is the upcoming backruptcy of GM and its effect on their abililty to continue to service their cars under the GM warranty. They do not have the necessary funds to provide this service and with the talk that they are going to dump around 1500 deealers, the GM service base is going to shrink as well. I know for a fact that the service writer was joining in the circle jerk in the service area and their ineffective attempts to fix my car. And the plot thickens.....Semper Fi | |
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"They do not have the necessary funds to provide this service and with the talk that they are going to dump around 1500 deealers, the GM service base is going to shrink as well." The way you make it sound, the number of "dealers" will be shrinking, but the "dealer service base" won't change at all, simply because you did not get much "service" until this last dealer |
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