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Buick Lucerne, Sedan
#1768 of 2217 Re: Sterring pull and wandering [sarge12]
Feb 27, 2007 (7:18 pm)
PLEASE! Let us know how this problem was fixed. I have had my 2006 Buick Lucerne in the shop 4 times for the terrible drifting to the right. Each time they rotate or put new tires, find nothing wrong in the specs for the front end and return it with the same problem. Just returned from the shop yesterday with 3 new tires and drifts (almost pulls) to the right worse than before. Told service manager I was going to bring it to a front end shop and pay myself and was told to let them know the cost. Could this be one for the lemon law? Let us know how your Lucerne problem was resolved.
#1769 of 2217 Re: Sterring pull and wandering [sau777]
Feb 27, 2007 (8:05 pm)
I've noticed something new in the tire business. The Hunter Road Force 9700 balancers that helped find the poor tire quality from some companies and models and fix the stiff frame vibration on H-bodies and C-bodies in 2000- on a few years...
Now I see that there Hunter can check for lead built into tires...
I wonder if that's a new symptom of tire quality not keeping up with car quality and you're finding it... read through the description of how they match up tires on the same axle that cancel each other's lead to give a better drive.
The call it straighttrack...Hunter 9700
The Accord got comments in the discussion in 03 and on with some lead problems. Same for the Camry.
#1770 of 2217 Re: Sterring pull and wandering [imidazol97]
Feb 27, 2007 (8:09 pm)
I didn't word my comment very well. I meant I wanted to know what Sarge's car had in the way of service to fix his problem, which may be related to your problem. I've heard so many people bragging about their foreign brand car that the Camry is not what I wanted to hear about, rather I want to know what is the symptom the Buick has fixed...
#1771 of 2217 Re: Steering pull and wandering [imidazol97]
Feb 28, 2007 (8:06 am)
Just out of curiosity, is this pulling a function of road crown? I own a 300C and there have been numerous posts there for pulling to the right. I notice that on a 2-lane road, when I pull out to pass, my pulling to the right becomes a pulling to the left, clearly related to road crown. Also, what is referred to as "improved road feel" to me translates to hyper sensitivity to the road surface. Has Buick also "improved road feel" and the result is this sensitivity to road surface?? Also, for the Chrysler, many reported the problems were strongly related to the Conti tires, and disappeared when Goodyears were installed. You certainly shouldn't have to custom match tires to wheel location. If so, what happens when you rotate tires?
#1772 of 2217 Re: Steering pull and wandering [vic10]
Feb 28, 2007 (8:15 am)
Without driving an individual car just as you describe to test it on the left side of the curved road surface and on the right side it's difficult to analyze whether it's the wonderful European feel some thing every car should have or if it's being too sensitive.
I think tires make a huge difference. The road noise one poster mentioned can be from a tough tire tread rolling. I had one tire that was great other than on the interstate overpasses in downtown Dayton; they screamed when they hit that particular texturing which was done in the concrete on the last major resurfacing a decade or so ago. They did an epoxy pavement or something like that for extended life.
A few of the cars that I recall in the Accord redesign had the cradle shifted and that changed the characteristic lead. I'd have to search back through posts now to be sure I'm recalling correctly.
The tires are matched on the same axle; when you rotate both fronts go to the back and both backs go to the front so they're still matched. Ideally tires don't have an lead; I thought that was an indication the belt was off center slightly.
#1773 of 2217 Steering pull and wandering (llt2)
Feb 28, 2007 (1:15 pm)
I posted #1756. The shop adjusted the caster to its max then played with the camber until it didn't drift to the right. Back in the old days alignment shops used to do this as routine. It seems that now days if the numbers fall within specs they do nothing. I'm still fighting with GM about the steering system being loose. It has only been one year.
#1775 of 2217 Re: Sterring pull and wandering [sau777]
Mar 06, 2007 (7:33 am)
Well here it is Gentlemen.
Dealer was not able to resolve the pull and drifting after (3) separate alignments, and installing Michelin plus tires. The tires did assist in the drifting , but had no effect on pull. Dealer sent me to get another alignment at a shop of my choice. I went to another but larger dealership. When making appointment with new dealer they were already aware with the Lucerne pull problem and assured me that they could repair the problem. I do not know all the technical repairs they made but the caster and camber was critically out of GM specks on the before alignment read out. The shop spent 3.5 hours alongateing adjustment slots to get the proper alignment. They took it out on the road and came back to shop to make minor adjustments to correct road pull. The test was to determine road lean to the right or left and to be equal steering pull. Yes, all vehicles will favor road lean , but must be minimum and equal to the left or right.
I have driven my Lucerne on a couple of long trips now and have been 100% satisfied with the results.
My advise is to change dealerships to someone who knows what they are doing.
Hope this helps, Sarge
#1776 of 2217 Re: Sterring pull and wandering [sarge12]
Mar 06, 2007 (8:23 am)
Coould you call the 2nd dealer and get the bulletin number fot the repair from them and post it here?
#1777 of 2217 Re: Steering pull and wandering
Mar 06, 2007 (3:01 pm)
I'm new to this site. I've been reviewing all the previous post about "Steering pull and wandering". I need to know if this problem is specific to one particular Buick model.
I have a 2006 CXL V8 and my steering is fine - it holds the road on any street condition (even bumps), without even holding the steering wheel.
Are the problems been posted only related to 2007 models???