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Buick Lucerne, Sedan
#1511 of 2217 Re: 2007 Lucerne [m1miata] and General Motors ill reputation.. [mediapusher]
Jun 15, 2006 (2:28 pm)
I have just ordered my 4th new Buick a Lucerne. Have owned
ONLY GM cars since I was a kid,(1Chevy,6Buicks)and recently
tested Avalon and Azera before CHOOSING Lucerne for it's
Comfortable ride and quiet cabin.
In contrast, while driving Avalon,I could NOT avoid feeling even minor road irregularites and hearing the engine scream when asked to accelerate just a little more than IT wanted. The Azera made a loud thud sound TWICE
when the transmission shifted,later the sales person said "it was normal, and was learning how I drive". I said no thanks.
Have you read the enormous amount of problems with the transmissions in the Avalon as posted on the Toyota Edmunds forum ?
My present 1994 Park Avenue(bought new) has 155,300 miles on it, and we will be sorry to see it go. The paint is less
than perfect, but the car's engine,transmission,etc,are ready for more miles,and more oil changes!
I have read most of the over 1500 messages posted here, with the positives FAR outweighing the negatives.
Some, would like to see more "advanced engine+transmission combinations in place.
However,rarely has anyone posted such a TOTALY BLEAK and 100% NEGATIVE opinion about a quality car, that a GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE STILL CHOOSE TO BUY, and ENJOY for many,many years!
Jun 15, 2006 (5:40 pm)
We have had our Lucerne for 5000 miles and can't find anything wrong with it. The ride is quiet and very smooth. The handling and roadability make it fun and effortless to drive. The Lucerne is not for everyone however, I think one would be passing on an opportunity of owning a nice car to not consider it. BTW I drive 30,000 to 35,000 miles a year.
#1513 of 2217 Re: Mad Re: 2007 Lucerne [hondaandtoyota]
Jun 15, 2006 (5:49 pm)
I still don't believe it. I doubt the labor costs for replacing an alternator is in the neighborhood of $700.
#1514 of 2217 Re: 2007 Lucerne [m1miata] and General Motors ill reputation.. [mediapusher]
Jun 15, 2006 (5:53 pm)
Yeah, that's why I had 195,000 on my first Camaro ('89), another 120,000 on my Buick Regal without any major problems (before I gave it to my parents), and haven't had any problems w/ a 2001 Camaro SS or my new Lucerne.
#1515 of 2217 Re: 2007 Lucerne [m1miata] and General Motors ill reputation.. [mediapusher]
Jun 15, 2006 (6:14 pm)
I agree. I was talking to a person at the local dealership (Toyota dealership) and he would agree that a majority of american cars are not well made. He said while driving his new american car "his steering wheel came off while driving home from the dealership." He will never buy another american car again.
Just telling another story that shows that GM needs to do something about there quality problems in order to increase there sales.
#1517 of 2217 Re: Mad Re: 2007 Lucerne [rake2]
Jun 15, 2006 (6:25 pm)
Well believe it. If you don't STILL then ask any one with good and i mean good knowledge about cars engines and they will tell you that engine was and still is a very expensive engine to work on.
#1518 of 2217 Re: Mad Re: 2007 Lucerne [hondaandtoyota]
Jun 15, 2006 (9:12 pm)
Another repair shop would be my suggestion.
#1519 of 2217 Re: 2007 Lucerne [m1miata] and General Motors ill reputation.. [mediapusher]
Jun 16, 2006 (7:31 am)
You are way off base with your comments and I will leave it at that. The people I know feel the same way about your Japanese cars, but I don't go on their forums to spread negative propaganda.
#1520 of 2217 Re: Mad Re: 2007 Lucerne [hondaandtoyota]
Jun 16, 2006 (8:59 am)
I think you must have had the ill fated 3400 DOHC which was in some mid nineties Cutlasses, Montes and GP. Don't confuse this with the 3400 pushrod that is popular now. You had to take one of the CV shafts off and possibly jack the engine up to replace the alternator, because it was located near the bottom of the motor. Much labor costs, small parts costs. I have heard of $700 to change an alternator in a DOHC Monte.