Last post on Aug 24, 2007 at 7:41 PM
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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#479 of 577 Re: Traditionally Untraditional [blufz1]
Apr 08, 2007 (10:16 am)
yeah but all diesels provide good torque. The base engine they are selling until the diesel comes has to carry around a lot of weight and cars!
in 1995, The 2.5TL made 176hp/170lb ft vs the v6 accord had 170hp. The 5cyl got better city MPG than the v6 accord.
but that was over 13 years ago. With this new technology, I think honda can make a 2.5l 5 cyl with 200hp and 200lb ft. Its good for the HP wars and should still get great MPG.
The new I-5 could make each car that gets the k24 ahead in its classes. The Acura TSX needs it most since it only make 167lb ft.
#480 of 577 Re: Traditionally Untraditional [autoboy16]
Apr 08, 2007 (10:27 am)
Most people are already satisfied with the 4 cylinder power and torque. Those who are not can buy the V6.
They really need to keep improving the fuel economy and not worry about adding more than a trivially small amount of extra power on the base engine.
The new 2008 fuel economy ratings will make it look as if it uses more gas even if doesn't, so the only way to even maintain the current MPG ratings is to improve it.
#481 of 577 Re: Traditionally Untraditional [jaxs1]
Apr 09, 2007 (3:09 pm)
5cyl mpg sometimes mirror that of a 4cyl but with 6cyl hp when made correctly. The old 5cyls that honda made in the 1990s got great MPG and had a a good amount power also.
A 5cyl would be good as honda doesn't plan to offer a v6 in the element or Cr-v which both could use the power boost.
#482 of 577 Re: Traditionally Untraditional [autoboy16]
Apr 09, 2007 (4:15 pm)
The CRV is getting the diesel.
#483 of 577 Focus on Improved MPG.
Apr 10, 2007 (7:27 am)
With current gas prices I really think that there should be more emphasis on MPG. Its a concern to most individuals.
#484 of 577 Re: Traditionally Untraditional [autoboy16]
Apr 10, 2007 (6:46 pm)
The 4 cylinder doesn't need more power. 5 cylinder isn't asked for or wanted even if it could get "almost as good mpg" as a 4 cylinder. They need to focus on maximizing MPG while keeping similar power. They can worry about having class-leading power on the optional V6 if they want to have bragging rights about horsepower.
#485 of 577 Re: Traditionally Untraditional [jaxs1]
Apr 11, 2007 (12:59 pm)
i think a 5cyl is a great median since honda won't give the cr-v a v6 let alone the element. It would be better for us overall!
Apr 11, 2007 (1:18 pm)
I have a novel idea. The 4 is plenty fast how about making it a tad smaller and more fuel efficient and keeping the same hp? Less is more.
Those who think more is more can get the V6 - which could also stand to get smaller while keeping the same hp.
Why waste technology on bigger and more powerful (and usually heavier and number), keep the power and increase the mileage.
#487 of 577 Re: - [dudleyr]
Apr 11, 2007 (1:46 pm)
Most people buy the 4cyl, and will not even consider the V6. These people still want to have performance that's competitive in this segment. The Accord already has the smallest V6 in this class, and while the car keeps getting bigger, I doubt the engine will get smaller (not going to happen). Honda is known for not following the leader, but you have to give in to consumer demand at some point.
Apr 11, 2007 (5:28 pm)
I know they won't make it smaller - just wishfull thinking on my part.
BTW what is wrong with the smallest engine - isn't the performance of the car what matters. There are plenty of really big engines without much power.
Of course my morning commute is not a drag race - maybe it is for most people. I guess I am just old and out of touch.