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Re: BMW AWD rocks. End of story. Period. [krzyss] by shipo
Jan 13, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: krzyss (Jan 13, 2009 12:34 pm)

My understanding is that the seasonal formulations vary by region. I did a little studying on this a couple of years back when E10 first made its appearance here in New England, and IIRC, the formulation here in the Boston area is the same year round.
 
Anybody with more recent information?
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: BMW AWD rocks. End of story. Period. [shipo] by ateixeira
Jan 14, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 13, 2009 12:48 pm)

Same here in MD.
 
At first it varied by the time of year, but now we use E10 year-round. No change in the formula seasonally any more.
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by richt5
Jan 20, 2009 (1:00 pm)
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I have 2 2006 mazda 6's ,a 2.3 i4 gt and a gt speed6.The fuel mileage difference between the 2 --- summer vs winter is about the same. Its 2 miles per gallon better in the summer. I watch mileage very carefully . This is real would driving . The biggest difference I have found is between gas brands ----- I know you wouldnt think so. I have found Shell to be the most inconsistent , sometimes 3 miles to the gallon less --- remember 2 cars , same conditions , same drivers and accurate calculations. Political concerns aside , Citgo is the most consistent. So turbo vs non turbo , 2 very similar cars (for this test) , the turbo still uses a little more gas in cold weather as does the non turbo. Buy the way both cars are great. thanks . I hope this offers some clarity to the subject.
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Re: [richt5] by ateixeira
Feb 03, 2009 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: richt5 (Jan 20, 2009 1:00 pm)

Both sedans?
 
Interesting to own the same car twice, despite major differences in the powertrains.
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Re: [ateixeira] by waygrabow
Apr 18, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 03, 2009 11:24 am)

I sold my MazdaSpeed6 last Fall; then drove our 03 Audi A4; now drive our 09 A4. That MazdaSpeed6 was a lot of car for the money. I still miss it, but it encouraged me to get speeding tickets. I got between 24-29 mpg with it. The regular Mazda6 is a nice car, but I doubt if it drives the same.
 
The A4 is a nice car but more bland. An automatic transmission just doesn't get me involved in the driving process; so I treat it like an appliance, with little urge to "push" it.
 
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2004 Audi A4 vs. the other AWD's ..... by penguinhead
May 31, 2009 (5:47 pm)
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Hello all !
New here...figured it would be an intelligent place...
Wife looking to buy a used (2004) AWD Sedan. Each has about 68,000 miles on it.
Prices are apparent differences, will deal with that later.
 
Looking at:
 
AUDI A4 1.8 Quattro
Infinity G35x
BMW 325xi
Mercedes c-240
 
Not looking for a 'race car'. Standard wife car; comfortable; good in snow. She likes these styles, so the Subarus are not a consideration.
 
Looking for opinions on each.
Maybe a quick summary that you may have on each.
Seeing that it is an AUDI forum - please feel free to let me know why I should get her the AUDI rather than the others.
 
I look forward to all your help.
Please be as lively and opinionated as you'd like to be !
 
Thank you !!!
 
Tooky
 
(Will post in the other forums also)
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Re: 2004 Audi A4 vs. the other AWD's ..... [penguinhead] by ateixeira
Jun 01, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: penguinhead (May 31, 2009 5:47 pm)

I think you have a nice list of cars there, actually.
 
I've driven all of them at one point or another, last year I went to an Audi event at Summit Point and sampled the Bimmer, Benz, Audi, and a Lexus IS250 AWD.
 
The Benz was a bit soft, this being a 2008 or so model. For their AWD cars the suspension tuning is softer, perhaps they expect snowy climates call for different priorities, but I was disappointed.
 
The Lexus was softer than the Benz. Great interior, but boring compared to the others.
 
The Audi was new and a V6 model, but I hear great things about the 2.0FSI, so I would really encourage you to sample one of those.
 
The Bimmer and Audi went head to head, both were loads of fun. Tough call.
 
The G35 I drove on a different day and was not the AWD 'x' model. Really liked it, good all-arounder. I'd recommend those 3 for you to sample.
 
The Benz and Lexus only if you really want a softer, more comfy ride that wasn't as involving. If you're even searching in this thread, I sort of doubt that's the case.
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Re: 2004 Audi A4 vs. the other AWD's ..... [penguinhead] by waygrabow
Jun 02, 2009 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: penguinhead (May 31, 2009 5:47 pm)

We recently went looking to replace our 03 A4 1.8T quattro. All the cars we looked at would be good choices, depending on your priorities. MB C300 4matic- really liked the looks, smallish trunk, definitely a contender. BMW 328xi- excellent handling, not sure we like the runflat tires, small trunk. G35x- handles like a big car, big HP means less mpg, many nice features. Audi A4: we loved our 03 but decided to get a new one at 74,000 miles. Now we have an 09 A4 which is the same model, same interior color, same exterior color, similar turbo engine, but more spacious, more power (but same mpg), even better handling. My wife loves the Audi, as she did the 03, and they are great snow cars. I even put Blizzaks on it for her.
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Ferrari, Lamborghini take this corner at 65, let's try it in the EVO at 100 by chelentano
Sep 07, 2009 (9:07 pm)
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i thought it's pretty cool video of EVO10:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4CfWdoSOTk&feature=fvhl
 
...the famous old video of EVO8 vs. Lambo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ees2aZcDUn8&feature=channel
 
and lancer EVO8 vs audi s4 vs sti:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seuvqhrsjwo

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