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Replying to: rjorge3 (Apr 22, 2005 7:21 pm) are you kidding me?....your friend must have the old body style S40....the new one was released halfway through the 2004 model year....there was a 2004 and a 2004.5....i've sat in both 2005 cars multiple times in the last 4 months and the S40's interior is WAY COOLER!!!......i mean...it's just sexy...i'm not saying the A4's interior isn't nice, because it is nice.....but(and it's a big but), it looks, well, like a nice version every other sedan on the road's interior...the only stand out thing in the A4's interior is the screen....but who needs navigation in america anyway?....and even if u did opt for navi, the S40's navi screen rises up out of the dash above the center console and air vents...it looks amazing if navi is your thing.... bottom line: the A4's interior is nice, but ordinary....the S40's interior is trend setting...it's a work of art really...click the link...
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Replying to: allwheeldriv3 (Apr 21, 2005 6:05 pm)
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Replying to: dhanley (Apr 22, 2005 6:51 am)
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Replying to: allwheeldriv3 (Apr 22, 2005 9:57 pm) The NAV in the A4 flips backward at the push of a button, and there are two MP3 Stick slots, and one DVD Player. Anyway, I think you're exaggerating the S40 a little bit. The materials aren't as good as the Audi's, a "rise-up" navigation screen isn't that amazing (the one in the Infiniti is better), and the interiors, overall, on all Volvos, would never come close to an Audi. It's just, even if something in the Volvo looks better, it's not really better. The Audi has muhc more attention to detail, and its interior isn't comparable. Besides, this is the older model A4's interior, all they did was slightly freshen it. Wait until they redesign it- it will surpass the Volvo's by, mmmm, maybe 10x. I mean, look at all the other Volvos compared to other Audis. Volvo is not a trend-setting company, besides in safety features. Mercedes has more of those, anyway. Audi is the trend-setter in interiors, and after the new model comes out in 2008, the A4 will be too. |
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My dear allwheeldrive, I hope that whatever you're smoking has only affected you in one side of the brain (apparently the one that see the Volvo with the nicer interior than the Audi, but I guess that you are indeed entitled to your opinion). I actually printed out your post and showed to four of my friends at the golf course today (just to get a kick out of you)....mind you that none of them directly drive either a Volvo or an Audi (the wife of one of them drive the ugly thing). My buddies drive a MB 55AMG, BMW 530 the second, Acura MDX the third a Nissan Maxima the fourth and of course ME an Audi A4. They are, however, just like me, car buff and we go together to Auto shows, and anything related to cars. Well, the owner of the MB 55AMG had the biggest laugh and told me......"just write the following..........the only thing that is uglier than a Volvo interior in its class is the interior of a Saab........and trust me, I know since my wife drive the damn thing because is supposed to be safe for the kids" Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, I just hope that you will never judge a beauty contest in your lifetime my friend, what a disaster that will be!!! 
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Replying to: esf (Apr 23, 2005 8:07 pm) I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I was looking at this from the perspective of handling. I've had a chance to drive the s60t5AWD on a track back to back with the s40t5AWD and the s40 is much better handling--this was at the volvo weather driving event. However, i don't think the s40t5awd as good as even an a4 with sport package. I also think the audi interior is better than the s40 interior. The 60 interior is closer if not quite there. As for the "futuristic" s40 interior, ok there's the thin center panel but, eh, so what? The narrow row of buttons just wastes console space in my opinion. On the other hand, i find the s40 interior to be extraordinarily comfortable. I love the seats.
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Replying to: esf (Apr 23, 2005 8:04 pm) I will have to admit the Audi A4/A6 interior may have better fit than the S40 or S60 R but I like the S60R interior more than either Audi's - Like i said it is more Lively. Have any of you looked at the interior choices (Inscription service I believe) Volvo is offering on the S60 models ? I owned an Older Audi 5000 - every power window failed (never had that problem all the older Volvos I owned), the automatic tranny failed (never had that problem with my older Volvos), Power sunroof failed (never had that problem with older Volvos) and Audi was still using DRUM brakes (Volvo stopped that in 1967 i believe). Overall Volvo builds a better quality car even if Audi's interiors feel better put together - who cares if the rest of the car is falling apart ? How many Audi owners proudly take their cares to 300,000 or 400,000 miles plus on original engines and automatic transmissions ? Don't forget how much VW is still in your A4 ...and I do realize Volvo is using the European Ford Focus platform (but not engines and transmissions) for the current S40. But that platform is garnered nothing but praise for its handling prowess in the automotive circles. I'd rather have money spent where it really counts (powerful engines, reliable transmissions) then to be able to brag that my interior is put together better than yours. |
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you guys are too much....the only thing i liked more about the audi's interior was the feel of the leather, and thats it. rjorge3, it's obvious i'm dealing with people that "know it all" because they read Car & Driver on the tiolet....then drive their $55,000+ cars that Consumer Reports told them was nice to the golf course and shoot 110+ and make themselves feel better by mocking an intenet posting(minus the pictures linked to, of course)....of course the owner of a 55AMG(more than twice the price of an S40) is gonna laugh at my post, especially since his wife drives an ugly as sin 2000-2002 S60....the reality of this all is, your buddies have never seen the interior of the 05 S40 and are equating it to the historical aesthetics of volvos of the past...which are, well, hiddious inside and out....however, a lot has changed in the last few years.... esf is obviously the only person in this thread that has either a) clicked on the links i provided, or b) actually saw or sat in an 05 S40....he disagree's with me, and thats fine, but atleast he compared the two and gave reasons for his opinions and not..."i showed your post to my ignorant fat-cat golf buddies and they laughed..". rjorge3, i'm glad you and your friends get a kick out of ignorance....tell your buddies with the AMG and 530 i'll play 18 on a course they choose and spot them 5 strokes if they put their cars on the line...you on the other hand can keep your tired A4... 
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Audi a Haldex? A4s have a center Torsen diffy with traction control managing both axles. The Haldex in the Volvo is primarily FWD and then shifts power quickly, but the Audi is different in that both axles get power all of the time. The systems work very differently. I like the S40's interior design but the materials below waist level leave much to be desired. The Audi is the opposite, wonderful materials with a design that leaves you cold. This discussion almost deserves its own thread. -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 25, 2005 10:22 am) I think there is less than 10 lb torque difference between the R and the S4 and the Volvo hits it peak torque at lower RPM. Yes the S4 has signficantly more horsepower with it's V8 but don't forget the Volvo S60 R (turbo 5 cylinder) can be purchased and chipped/modded to reach the S4 horsepower and significantly exceed its torque ratings for less than it would cost to buy an S4.
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