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820 messages, Last post on Jun 02, 2009 at 7:45 PM
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 28, 2008 7:00 am) If my choices were limited to AWD cars I would also look at the Evo MR as well as the STi. The Spec B is another excellent pick. I found a very clean 2005 Audi CPO S4 for just $31900, but unfortunately it was a slushbox... 
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 28, 2008 1:06 pm) Try them out, though. Can't hurt, plus it'll be fun. 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 28, 2008 1:54 pm) If they're TOO sporty, then he's TOO old. 
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 28, 2008 3:27 pm)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Aug 28, 2008 5:08 pm) The MazdaSpeed3 is very nice, but no AWD. IMHO that's too much power for the front wheels alone, so much that early models had engines shaking out of their cradles due to wheel hop on acceleration. Doesn't Mazda even limit boost in 1st and 2nd gear? Give it AWD, Mazda!
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 8:55 am) No, the problem was a motor mount. A revised one was issued and the problem has only resurfaced with heavily modded cars and/cars that are drag raced. Doesn't Mazda even limit boost in 1st and 2nd gear? Yes, and boost is also dependent on the steering angle. Give it AWD, Mazda! I much prefer RWD cars; I bought a Mazdaspeed3 because I thought a little FWD experience would be helpful when I instruct students who have FWD cars at HPDEs. It's been kind of fun learning how to drive a FWD car properly, but I'll probably flip it for an E46 M3 in the near future. AWD is fine but it's not my first choice- unless it's a really, REALLY performance/track oriented sled like the Evo or STi.
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 29, 2008 11:07 am) So how would you rate your preference? RWD, then AWD, then FWD? Depends? I prefer AWD, then RWD, then FWD, in that order Funny thing is I own one of each!
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Replying to: waygrabow (Aug 27, 2008 8:46 pm) However, I just put $2,300 into the computer control module for the CVT; mechanically should be okay. (I hope). I'm going to bet that that A4 lasts a lot longer and will keep it and replace the timing belt chain at 100K miles. However, I will be giving it to my daughters to drive because the resale value isn't anything worthwhile and I'd rather the kids drive it then spend even more money for an unknown used car. For me, I will consider the new A4 2.0T but I have already spent a day with the new 2009 Acura TSX. It was a loaner I got when my wife's MDX was being serviced. I really like the TSX. Roomier than the current A4, drove nice, roomy. It is much smoother, quieter and has better gas mileage than the last TSX. It is also A LOT less than the A4. I am definitely considering getting one. I'd recommend test driving one. The sticker is thousands less than the A4 sticker, just one of the dealers in Cleveland has a lot in stock and the Internet price was much less than MSRP. Its worth a look. Hertz gave me a Volvo S80 for 3 days on a recent trip. I really liked that too; very different from the Audi. I think the CTS is worth a look too. Let us know what you get.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 29, 2008 5:58 pm) I prefer RWD- with no electronic nannies designed to save incompetent drivers from themselves. I love my 318ti Club Sport; all it needs is another 100 bhp, and a stroker motor will fix that. AWD only works for me when I'm in a lazy mood and I'm not trying to set high cross country speed averages. When that's the case, my wife's X3 slushbox does the job quite well. When I'm facing serious winter weather or muddy roads(I live on a small farm with a 2800 ft gravel driveway) I take my Jeep TJ. Funny thing: we had a fairly heavy snowfall last winter and I drove the thing around the county for the better part of the day before I noticed that I had never put in four wheel drive. And FWD? Well, like I said, I bought the Mazdaspeed to hone a skill set I don't often use. It was kind of entertaining to learn how to drive it, but now I'm just flat-out bored with it- though I now think I'd feel that way about anything that isn't RWD and packing at least 300 hp. I ventured off the Munich reservation in order to try something different. I'll be paying the price for my abject stupidity for a few years- purchase in haste, detest at leisure...
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